vertical to horizontal

[Rotore]

how would i go about converting my vertical engine to horizontal?

and i know it would be easier to get a horizontal shaft but i'm just doing it for the learning experience (yes i know it sounds corny) and to keep myself out of trouble during the summer hasn't even been a week out of school and i was allready arrested.

so as you know i have a 1984 11hp briggs with an electric starter. heres a pic

 

[theo]

What size is the crank snout?

theo

 

[THE HUNTER]

yeah, normally i would just say sell the engine to buy a horizontal shaft engine, but if you want to do it for experience and to keep yerself outta trouble (i get what you mean lol)
then good luck, and i will try to help along the way!

rotating the carb, and making a way to fill/drain the oil is all i can think of to do to the outside of the engine off the top of my head.
on the inside, take out the little oil slinger gear thing (im assuming this is splash-type lube)
and add an oil dipper to the crank, idk if you can make one (ive heard you can, but i dont have experience with it)
or maybe buy a new connecting rod for a horizontal shaft engine of the same horsepower (must be splash lube, check specs to make sure everything fits)
the only prob i can think of to buying a new connecting rod is that the dipper may contact the bottom of what will now be the oil sump.


im sure others will have lots more useful ideas too!

 

[Rotore]

What size is the crank snout?


theo

the what?


but rotating the carb isnt going to be a problem. but can someone give me a pic of the oil slinger?

 

[Affair_driven]

can someone give me a pic of the oil slinger?

It looks like gear driven paddles.
On larger engines, governor and slinger are one unit.
On smaller engines, governor and slinger are separate parts.
Can be cream or black in color.

 

[THE HUNTER]

oil dipper on a horizontal shaft engine (what you need)

oil slinger on a vert-shaft engine (what you have)

(the white plastic thing that runs off the camshaft)

 

[oscaryu1]

Coooooool a live picture

 

[THE HUNTER]

Google Images. saves me the trouble of rippin apart an engine to get the pics lol

 

[bigfootrules31]

why not leave it in or get yourself a ride on that that motor came out of it, and make a racing lawnmower

 

[freakboy]

could you turn a full pressure lubed twin vertical into horz? I know i would need to re mount the carby. but is there anything else?

 

[EagleTalons]

The sump pickup might not work.

 

[oscaryu1]

Lol. Leaving it in the lawnmower and just swapping pullies sounds like a better alternative. And no one would expect it when you zip by.

 

[Rotore]

why not leave it in or get yourself a ride on that that motor came out of it, and make a racing lawnmower

not really into riding mowers dude.


but i scraped through a briggs repair manual and saw that the slinger and the govener assembly are one.

so i guess i have to remove the govener with the slinger and since i was going to run it without a govener it the the govener assembly's apsence wouldn'y make a difference right?

 

[mike75925]

question other than the knowledge and staying outta trouble, any other reason for the reconfiguration? triing to make a gokart?

 

[Rotore]

yep

 

[mike75925]

any preference on speed, gears, reverse?

 

[Rotore]

well i got something done. i removed the starter, drained the oil, took off the base plate, remove the oil slinger and govener.

i got pictures and some questions.

*where can i buy a base plate gasket?

*it has some kind of block guard which might make it a bit more difficult to install a dipper but i have an idea. Can i take a .14 thick plate about 1.5 cm wide and 2.5cm long, bend it abit and use it as a dipper?

*what motor oil would i use on the motor?

 

[Rotore]

any preference on speed, gears, reverse?

nope i'll use a 6:1 gear ratio and be happy with it.

 

[Rotore]

here some bent metal that i could use as a dipper i just need to shave the sides a bit and cut a cm of the tip.