Useing a 20HP Briggs twin vert on gokart

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tinkerman73

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I have a good running Briggs 20HP Twin from a rider. Wondering, has anyone used one of these? How would I conect it to the axle if I wanted to go with a live axle wich of course would be a horizontal shaft. LOL. Is there a way to make it a horizontal engine? any threads or reference on useing this motor on a kart? Thanks.
 

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I personally dont know of any... Ive though about using one from a tiller... one of these days.
 

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something like this...

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=13-1423&catname=powerTrans


another option is to use a riding mower transmission and mess with the pulley sizes to get more speed than a lawnmower.

heres my mower tranny

 

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they aint cheap!

what do you mean by change the gears? do you mean getting a good gear ratio set up?
 

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Yes, taking the pully off and putting on a cog and getting a good gear ratio set in the cogs so the motor will get the kart going faster!. For that price, I think I would get a old snow blower or tiller with a 1:1 gear box.
 

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ahh yes, tons of power, small kart.

i think you should rebuild the 13hp. honestly thats still a lot of power and much easier than redesigning the whole rear end to fit a vertical shaft engine and home made drive train.

EDIT: you think a RAGB from a tiller or snowblower would hold up?
 

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I dont know if I would say small? For size reference, those are garden tractor tires on it. It easily fits me and im 5'6". Kinda BIG for my boys. I know that engine would be overkill for my bar stool kart!! My 8HP Im saving for a wood splitter project since it is already set up for one. Im not sure if a 5HP would really be enough power to run this thing and me on it?
 

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Get a 10 horse wisconsin engine! I have one on my kart and it has run for years without ANY maintenance except for oil changes. Top speed of 55MPH too, nice and fast. Only problem is, now I'm having engine trouble... But it sure did pass it's time!
 

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Everblade- I'm sure it's a lovely engine but I very much doubt tinkerman's going to consider it an option- along with all the other lovely engines out there.

Tinkerman- For what you'd have to go through to use that big twin, you're much better off rebuilding your 13hp horizontal. Having to employ an RAGB or mower tranny will add weight, cost, and complexity. You will also have space constraints as these mower trannies are typically installed at a distance from the engine. Now, you'd be looking at shoehorning an already huge engine into the rear of the kart, and still try to make room for a tranny or RAGB and the associated driveline goodies required to make it work. Not only will it be a tight fit, but will add excess weight, robbing power and throwing the kart's weight bias further rearward which can adversely affect handling.

Most mower trannies are not stout enough to withstand the rigors of karting. Those that are can be pricey and still require some modification work.

Many walk-behind snowblowers' RAGB's are not only lightweight and relatively flimsy- they also tend to be worm-gear units. Worm drives can NOT be back-driven or they will detonate. By back driven, I mean applying power to the output, such as coasting. The rear wheels will try to "drive" the output shaft, and you'll be picking up bits of it for quite awhile.

I did lay hands on a 1.2:1 RAGB from a Bolens garden tractor snowblower attachment. It features an iron case and steel gears in a bevel arrangement. While perfectly suited for the task mechanically, it's a large, heavy hunk of equipment that's gotta weigh 10-15lbs, not including lube, pulley, sprocket, chain, mounting bracketry, etc. Good for a buggy, lousy for a kart.

Just some food for thought.
 
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