UK Arachnid build
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Silvergrizz
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Wobbly, as Bill says, send an email to desert karts and get a quote for shipping. The unit weighs 2 lbs (90 grams) plus packaging. Depending on the shipping options you decide on, you should be able to find a resonable price point/time option that is acceptable. These are really nice units and DessrtKarts are great to deal with
Grizz (Silver got added as my hair changed, then dissapeared
I'll send them an e-mail and see what they say. The problem now is that I had to widen the front end of my buggy to accomodate the steering rack I have. If I go with the narrower one from desert karts, then won't it be too narrow and give me similar problems?
Bill CNC
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Wobbly,
Did you make the suspension block 6." or 7." wide?
If you make the suspension block 6." wide your fine. If you made it 7.", ... just cut 1." out of the center and re-weld it back together.
Did you make the suspension block 6." or 7." wide?
If you make the suspension block 6." wide your fine. If you made it 7.", ... just cut 1." out of the center and re-weld it back together.
I'm away from home right now so I can't check, but I think it's 6" wide. I remember working out that if I reduce the wishbones by 1" each, then I could compensate for the wider front end, so that must mean I am 2" wider than stock. I hope I can get away with it because the front end is all welded up now, and it would be a huge amount of work to start over.
Bill CNC
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The plans call for the suspension block to be 5.". "If" you made it 6.", your fine, but if you made it 2." over, that would mean your suspension block is 7." and it's to wide.
It shouldn't be a huge hassle to make it smaller unless you welded the hell out of the rack mount. If you did weld the hell out of the rack mount, it's still doable, it will just take 20 minutes or so longer, that's all.
Do you have access to a bandsaw that has a metal, blade on it?
If so, just cut it down the middle and remove the extra 1.". After it's cut in half, ... remove the rack mount pieces off both sides and then weld the suspension block all back together. Get a new rack mount and set it inside and weld it in.
Your done.
Bill
It shouldn't be a huge hassle to make it smaller unless you welded the hell out of the rack mount. If you did weld the hell out of the rack mount, it's still doable, it will just take 20 minutes or so longer, that's all.
Do you have access to a bandsaw that has a metal, blade on it?
If so, just cut it down the middle and remove the extra 1.". After it's cut in half, ... remove the rack mount pieces off both sides and then weld the suspension block all back together. Get a new rack mount and set it inside and weld it in.
Your done.
Bill
Right, I'm stuck! My front block is 8 1/4" wide and I have welded the hell out of it already, so to change it would be very difficult. The rack I have is impossible to reduce in width, and I can't find anything either side of the Atlantic that is the right size. The only thing I have found which might do the job is THIS Not sure of the dimensions yet, I'll give them a ring tomorrow, and it might be possible to shorten it. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of rack or any other suggestions?
Bill CNC
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Wobbly,
Did you contact desert Karts?
Do you know the width of the Honda rack?
Bill
Did you contact desert Karts?
Do you know the width of the Honda rack?
Bill
Bill CNC
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Wobbly,
I have good news and bad news for you. I will give you the bad news first so you will feel happy at the end!
Bad News:
The problem is you have now widened the suspension block to over 8.0". You still need to add the added spindle bracket dimensions that we use for A-arm pivots. Measure from center-to-center of the spindle bracket holes.
What is that measurement?
Good News;
DesertKarts.com sells the rack in 8.0" and 11.0"
They "DO" ship internationally.
This is from their website;
We ship globally. If you see a part that interests you the best way to find out how much it costs and if UPS will deliver to your country is to do the following:
1. Click on the part you may want to buy.
2. Click the "Add to Cart" button.
3. Click "Check Out".
4. Select a "Worldwide" shipping method and enter your information including your shipping address.
5. Then click "Continue With Purchase". At this point you will know if your part can be delivered to you and how much it will cost if it can. If an error is shown this means there is no delivery to your address.
At this point if you really want the part, it is best to contact an exporter that specializes in transportation of goods to your country.
Hope this helps
Regards
Bill
I have good news and bad news for you. I will give you the bad news first so you will feel happy at the end!
Bad News:
The problem is you have now widened the suspension block to over 8.0". You still need to add the added spindle bracket dimensions that we use for A-arm pivots. Measure from center-to-center of the spindle bracket holes.
What is that measurement?
Good News;
DesertKarts.com sells the rack in 8.0" and 11.0"
They "DO" ship internationally.
This is from their website;
We ship globally. If you see a part that interests you the best way to find out how much it costs and if UPS will deliver to your country is to do the following:
1. Click on the part you may want to buy.
2. Click the "Add to Cart" button.
3. Click "Check Out".
4. Select a "Worldwide" shipping method and enter your information including your shipping address.
5. Then click "Continue With Purchase". At this point you will know if your part can be delivered to you and how much it will cost if it can. If an error is shown this means there is no delivery to your address.
At this point if you really want the part, it is best to contact an exporter that specializes in transportation of goods to your country.
Hope this helps
Regards
Bill
Bill CNC
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I've measured the distance between the spindle bracket holes and it comes to a shade under 10.5". Looks like the 11" rack from desertkarts may do the job but at quite a cost. I have been looking at car steering racks and trying to find one that I might be able to shorten.
I am considering abandoning the Arachnid plans and the moment and starting over with my own design
I am considering abandoning the Arachnid plans and the moment and starting over with my own design
Silvergrizz
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I've measured the distance between the spindle bracket holes and it comes to a shade under 10.5". Looks like the 11" rack from desertkarts may do the job but at quite a cost. I have been looking at car steering racks and trying to find one that I might be able to shorten.
I am considering abandoning the Arachnid plans and the moment and starting over with my own design
Wobbly, hate to see you have to abandon your build.
Have you tried searching some of Car Specific sites in the UK to see if any might have a rack and pinion system that could be adapted like some of the old small sports cars. Just a thought, you might get lucky. Some of the tech guys on one of these sites might be able to give you the specifics on a model that may work for youHey Grizz. I've already spent well over a £1000 on this project, and it seems like I'm running into more and more problems all the time. A lot of these problems can be over come, but at a cost, and I have to be realistic with the budget. I always knew it wasn't going to be easy, just feeling a little dis-heartened at the minute.
I have spent the last 2 days searching the internet for a suitable rack from the UK but they just don't exist. The couple that I have found are out of stock or of a similar dimension to the one I already own. I have been looking at buying an old car rack and shortening it, but I have no idea which one would be suitable. I have found one web page which talked about using a Hyundai rack but it's from a model that isn't available in the UK. Until I sort this out I don't won't to progress the build because this is a major problem.
I have spent the last 2 days searching the internet for a suitable rack from the UK but they just don't exist. The couple that I have found are out of stock or of a similar dimension to the one I already own. I have been looking at buying an old car rack and shortening it, but I have no idea which one would be suitable. I have found one web page which talked about using a Hyundai rack but it's from a model that isn't available in the UK. Until I sort this out I don't won't to progress the build because this is a major problem.
mkuivama
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As we changed a few words on "Bills" topic, my 11" rack seems to be useless now I could probably sell this for you.
I have same problems with ordering from US. High shipping costs + import charges (here in Finland 22% when purchases are more than $50 worth).
Seems that exactly 8" racks are quite rare? I saw on ebay few racks which were 8.5", this probably would not be an issue? Just have to make 6.5" wide suspension block?
I could probably sell this for you. I have same problems with ordering from US. High shipping costs + import charges (here in Finland 22% when purchases are more than $50 worth).
Seems that exactly 8" racks are quite rare? I saw on ebay few racks which were 8.5", this probably would not be an issue? Just have to make 6.5" wide suspension block?
wobbly, if you send me some measurements of the front end block, I might be able to redraw the front end so you can use a bell crank instead of the rack. This will save you a lot of money and some headaches. I need the outside measurements of the front block, length, height and width also the size of tubing you are using. Also the measurements of the a arm at the block
mkuivama if you decide to sell I would be interested. The front block can be made to any dimension within reason, so a 8.5" rack should be fine.
theo thankyou very much for your offer, I've yet to make the A arms so I can't give you those measurements yet. I'll persevere with the steering rack for a little longer and if I can't figure it out I'll take you up on your offer.
redsox Spiderkarts do provide a link to a few websites to supply racks, however support from them seems a little thin on the ground.
theo thankyou very much for your offer, I've yet to make the A arms so I can't give you those measurements yet. I'll persevere with the steering rack for a little longer and if I can't figure it out I'll take you up on your offer.
redsox Spiderkarts do provide a link to a few websites to supply racks, however support from them seems a little thin on the ground.
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