Took the Muffler off and!!!

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Took off the muffler and took it for a spin alomg with my Gamin GPS and it clocked it at 26.4 mph which is 1 mile faster than yesterda's test with the muffler on , and it's really not that loud and the engine seemed to run better...:thumbsup:
 

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no muffler meaning straight from the block? you will get better performance with a straight pipe.
 

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if you ride in a neighborhood or off road, you need to use a muffler, they act as spark arrestors, if you live in a neighborhood, you are doubling your odds that your neighbors will get tired of the noise of you running up and down their road, which results in cops telling you to park it... what you hear from the front isn't relevant to what others hear, the wind in your ears deadens the noise. (not to mention you can damage the valves running it without a muffler)
 

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I'm still not sure I buy the whole "you're gonna hurt your valves" argument, but since I've never run any long length of time with no exhaust, I can't say for sure. But Speed1 did discover this- a restrictive exhaust does hurt performance. While this is not a new concept, it's nice to prove things to ourselves now and then. Time for a better exhaust system.

I do agree that it was louder than you thought, and you probably don't want to do it too much...
 

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the gist is, if you run an engine with nothing bolted to the exhaust port, cold air has immediate access to the valves, which can cause warping and not seating properly, would be worse in the winter, but also leaves your valves etc open to hose water if washing it down, etc. in general SOMETHING there to hold a hot air buffer is best. even if it is a straight pipe.

if your dead set on running without a spark arrestor on the road, straight pipe point it down. I would not run one without some kind of arrestor off road, your asking for trouble, like burned down houses at worst.

because of how simple these motors are, they can do things like breath fire when you wind them out if they are in need of adjusting. when my buggy got up to full throttle in its first generation state, it would dump unburned fuel onto the arrestor and if it backfired on letoff (often) it would shoot about a foot flame out the back. I added a bit of stainless steel wool to the cannister (its a super trapp) which seriously helped keep that down, so some back pressure isn't all bad.
 

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Thanks you guys for your professional opinions...I do not want to annoy neighbors and 1mph is not that great of a performance boost ...I'll either put the muffler back on or ask my son to put a straight pipe on it/ Although I do live in the desert we have decided to find an empty parking lot and ride it there...
 
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