think this is a carb issue....

[fireman388]

so i finially got my predator 212 mounted back up after a bunch of add ons. i start it with the choke on and it starts first pull and idles perfect. as soon as i turn the choke off its practically WOT. i feel as if the carb needs to be adjusted but im not seeing any adjustments on the factory carb. any help? so far i am otherwise happy with it.

 

[cavfire]

Looking at the picture the throttle is just about wide open. Are you cranking it like this? Possible when you did the direct linkage you sprung it to hold the throttle open instead of closed.

 

[chancer]

Another possibility is the Fuel pump. Which you DO NOT need since the tank is above the carb.
Try just running a fuel line direct from the tank to the carb. Just to see what happens.
Sometimes the pumps need a "T" for a return fuel line, to the tank, or they continue to pump past the float bowl and flood the carb.
This could be why it runs with Choke. and why you get WOT... too much fuel being pumped.

I am NO expert... Help me out guys! Does this sound legit?
Well definitely easy and worth a try.

 

[fireman388]

Looking at the picture the throttle is just about wide open. Are you cranking it like this? Possible when you did the direct linkage you sprung it to hold the throttle open instead of closed.

if thats the case then i have big issues because when i pull the throttle cable it would close the throttle on the carb. watched a youtube video when i set it up and followed it to a T. Not saying that just because someone made a video that they are correct.....

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Another possibility is the Fuel pump. Which you DO NOT need since the tank is above the carb.
Try just running a fuel line direct from the tank to the carb. Just to see what happens.
Sometimes the pumps need a "T" for a return fuel line, to the tank, or they continue to pump past the float bowl and flood the carb.
This could be why it runs with Choke. and why you get WOT... too much fuel being pumped.

I am NO expert... Help me out guys! Does this sound legit?
Well definitely easy and worth a try.

The tank is only there temp. Im making a tank that can get tucked down low. Im gunna try removing it from the equation tomorrow

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Another possibility is the Fuel pump. Which you DO NOT need since the tank is above the carb.
Try just running a fuel line direct from the tank to the carb. Just to see what happens.
Sometimes the pumps need a "T" for a return fuel line, to the tank, or they continue to pump past the float bowl and flood the carb.
This could be why it runs with Choke. and why you get WOT... too much fuel being pumped.

I am NO expert... Help me out guys! Does this sound legit?
Well definitely easy and worth a try.

In theory, the float should float up, pushing the needle into the seat, and closing the bowl from allowing anymore fuel in.

However, it is possible extras pressure could overcome the spring pressure and allow extra fuel in.

I would guess a governor or linkage issue is more likely though. Have you tried running it with no linkage hooked up at all?

Also, simple, but maybe overlooked, is the carb returning to closed, idle screw not run way in or anything?

 

[FreeRunner15]

That is how i started out with my engine. It would run when idle and it would take off when air got added and then it would REALLY take off when gas got added and then it would ReAlLy gain speed once you apply throttle.
Idle adjuster. Experiment with it when the engine is running.

 

[cavfire]

if thats the case then i have big issues because when i pull the throttle cable it would close the throttle on the carb. watched a youtube video when i set it up and followed it to a T. Not saying that just because someone made a video that they are correct.....

The throttle linkage looks right as far as pulling the cable will open the butterfly, but the butterfly is already open in the pic. Why I asked if the return spring was wrong and keeping the butterfly open.

 

[fireman388]

so the throttle setup is backwards somehow. it rests at WOT and the throttle is REDUCED when you push the petal. im not sure how this is possible. anyone have this plate/throttle set up in current usage? mind posting a pic?

 

[fireman388]

GOOD TO GO!!!! i made a second throttle arm and mounted it between the first arm and the carb to reverse the direction when the throttle cable is pulled. il post pics tonight after my EMT class. runs perfect!
Thank you everyone for your help. now if only the driven i ordered a week and a half ago will show up il be riding this weekend