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Bbqjoe

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I just got my first set ever from Craftsman.

My original engine off the Baja was an untapped clone.
Is it possible for a layman to drill and tap the PTO shaft, or am I kidding myself thinking I should even try?
 

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I don't know, but you did ask...Is PTO shaft soft or hardened ? try to scratch it with a file if it leaves a mark it's soft enough to drill. If you know about this already---sorry just talkin.
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They make a guide for this. it slips onto the end of the shaft... and you drill to desired depth... tap as usual....
Most cranks aren't really hard at this end....
 

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Make a drill guide by taking a piece of round stock 1/4" larger than the PTO shaft and bore it out on a lathe until it will just fit over the shaft. Bore it at least one inch deep to give support then cut it off 1/2" longer. Drill a hole in the center of the guide with the size drill bit that is required to drill for the tap. Slide it over the PTO shaft then use it as a guide to drill the hole in the center of the PTO. Use a new cobalt drill (Cheap, from a hardware store) and make sure you are straight. Drill 1/4" deeper than your bolt that is to be threaded into the hole when done.

When you tap it make sure it starts straight. Use lots of oil. Go in a few turns then back out, clean off any chips, repeat until it is deep enough. Don't force it, if it breaks off you are screwed. Only use a new tap. The most expensive tool in any machine shop is a dull tap. I have seen taps break off in a part that has $1000 worth of material and machining time invested in it.

If you want to tap this and cant get a guide PM me and I will make you one, no charge. I need the PTO size and the tap size that you want to use on it.
 

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Make a drill guide by taking a piece of round stock 1/4" larger than the PTO shaft and bore it out on a lathe until it will just fit over the shaft. Bore it at least one inch deep to give support then cut it off 1/2" longer. Drill a hole in the center of the guide with the size drill bit that is required to drill for the tap. Slide it over the PTO shaft then use it as a guide to drill the hole in the center of the PTO. Use a new cobalt drill (Cheap, from a hardware store) and make sure you are straight. Drill 1/4" deeper than your bolt that is to be threaded into the hole when done.

When you tap it make sure it starts straight. Use lots of oil. Go in a few turns then back out, clean off any chips, repeat until it is deep enough. Don't force it, if it breaks off you are screwed. Only use a new tap. The most expensive tool in any machine shop is a dull tap. I have seen taps break off in a part that has $1000 worth of material and machining time invested in it.

If you want to tap this and cant get a guide PM me and I will make you one, no charge. I need the PTO size and the tap size that you want to use on it.

Wow! that's quite an offer, thank you!

I've gotta make a trip to the machine shop to get my flywheel balanced, I might just as well have them tap the crank now that I've decided to go this far.

Most cool of you.:cheers2:
 

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Wanna hear from the real world now?

Start with a small bit and work your way up. Don't completely freak out on depth or perfect centering. Just don't get stupid sloppy.

Done.
 

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I agree with poboy. I've done a few with hand drills and taps. I rpm my crap to the moon too, and haven't had a problem yet. The cranks aren't very hard at all.
 

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In a pinch it could be done by hand, but if you have access to a lathe might aswell use it.

I need to make a few myself... atleast, when I find the clamps for the tail stock. :roflol:


I forget what this stuff was called, but the shop I worked at we used to stuff for tapping... this crap was thicker than bar oil, and sticky! The machinist there said it was great... for all the tapping Ive done, I didnt notice anything so great about it... cuttin oil works.
 

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Rapid tap is the typical most machinists use, it also smells wierd...
 

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Ya... It also taste really bad...(doing some threading on the lathe, had some chips splash some of the gunk in my face. Some reason I decide to lick my lips instead of check and wash off my face..)
 

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Baa ahhh hahaha.... That's fricken hilarious....

Wow... I must be tired... Walked straight into that one...
 
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