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dave1701

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Ever since it was new, the steering shaft has rattled. It is very annoying. The rattle is literally louder than the engine. It will stop if I hold on to the wheel. I believe the rattle is coming from the slight play between the two ends of the rod. How would I go about fixing this?
 

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I can't figure out how to get in there with washers or bushings or whatever. There aren't any bolts on either end.






 

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Yea, I have to grip it really stiffly to keep it from making a racket too. Very annoying.
 

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My sugestion would be to install a zerk fitting at each end and shoot some grease into each end. It would give the shaft a cushion.
 

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go with oldbikerarlo advice. drill and tap hole for zerk fitting,in outside tube and lube. much easyer than,cutting steering shaft out(welded on very bottom) and good luck tryin to re-weld.....
 

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Time to pay your welder buddy a visit again.

Simply grabbing the shaft and moving it up and down, and side to side, should reveal the problem(s).

You could find some suitable material for bushings, split it, and insert without removing the column. Leave some sticking out, and use a hose clamp, ziptie, or similar to secure.
 

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Thanks, I'll try that. I can see the problem. The shaft is slightly moving up and down causing the ends to bang into the shaft housing. I'll try to go to the hardware store tomorrow to see if I can find a nylon washer or something else thin enough to do the job.

I say this to the cheap Chinese kart manufacturer. This thing ought to be blacklisted. It's whole design is flawed. One wheel drive was horrible for that size kart. Incorrect ratio for any off road use. REVERSE Ackerman steering. And this...
 

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Drill and tap through the side of the steering shaft cover 1/2 inch from the end. You might be able to find some self tapping zerks, but if not be careful how deep you tap the holes 2 to 2 1/2 threads cause zerks are a taper thread just like pipe.

Just thought of another red neck fix. You could rub some heavy string in some grease and wrap it around the steering shaft between the cover tube and shaft end to take up the slop.
 
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The two most common zerk fittings are as follows-

1)Threaded- you have to drill and tap for 1/4"-20 (IIRC)
2)Drive in- can't remember hole size, but you literally drill an interference fit hole and drive it in with a hammer and hollow punch. No threads required.

However- and this is critical- if the wall of the tubing is too thin, the fitting will go in too far and interefere with the shaft! (and/or, if the wall's too thin, there won't be enough material there to keep the fitting securely in place.) Best bet? Bushings.
 

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The two most common zerk fittings are as follows-

1)Threaded- you have to drill and tap for 1/4"-20 (IIRC)
2)Drive in- can't remember hole size, but you literally drill an interference fit hole and drive it in with a hammer and hollow punch. No threads required.

However- and this is critical- if the wall of the tubing is too thin, the fitting will go in too far and interefere with the shaft! (and/or, if the wall's too thin, there won't be enough material there to keep the fitting securely in place.) Best bet? Bushings.

That would be the best fix but he would have to cut up his whole steering set up then weld it all back together. then the paint would look bad from welding.
 

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Okay- try this- find some sheet plastic and make "thrust washers" like illustrated in my 10-second paint pic. Tuck them in at top and bottom of steering column tube. To keep them in place, experiment with gluing to steering wheel flange and pitman arm. You'll have to play with various thicknesses. Look around you, there are many sources for plastic sheet, from packaging, to "for sale" signs...

This is not the best solution, but spares you from hacking and welding until it's more "convenient".
 

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if u wanna really take out the vibration u could go to a work shop and ask for som old shims

we dont reuse shims so we have thousands of old olds floating around

shims are basially differant thicknesses of metal going right from credit card thickness to also nothing
 

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Okay- try this- find some sheet plastic and make "thrust washers" like illustrated in my 10-second paint pic. Tuck them in at top and bottom of steering column tube. To keep them in place, experiment with gluing to steering wheel flange and pitman arm. You'll have to play with various thicknesses. Look around you, there are many sources for plastic sheet, from packaging, to "for sale" signs...

This is not the best solution, but spares you from hacking and welding until it's more "convenient".

Thanks. That's what I was thinking.
 
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