Starting fluid risks for damage on Predator 212's...............

madprofessor

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Planning ahead here. Going to be firing off my current hotrodded Predator 212cc in the next few days after months of just sitting. It's only had the pullrope yanked through it a few revolutions every month without the ignition turned on, just to keep things splashed with oil.
Willing to give it 4 full pulls to start it, but won't keep yanking after that just to find out something's wrong. Everything should be perfect, no mechanical reason for it not to start, tank's full with Sta-Bil added to 93 octane going through a pulse pump, and the weather should be in the comfortable zone. 2 good pulls with choke on, 2 without choke, and that's it. Diagnostic path at that point would be a no-choke pull with a throat full of starting fluid in it.
Looking for opinions here on the use of starting fluid in these low-compression single cylinder 4-strokers, stock (just curious) or on the hotrodded ones like mine. I've got higher compression via a .020-over rod and a .012 head gasket. Running a .265 Superman cam that focuses on low-mid/midrange power, and timing advance is 35.2 degrees. Valves, lifters, keepers, rockers, and pushrods are all stock, but valve springs are 22#. Any opinions on the volatility and increased pressure of starting fluid in a cylinder like that? Want to know (even if it cranks right up) as a bonus if it's wise to add a small can of it to my mobile repairs kit for breakdowns away from home base also. No trailer available to drag it home.
Raison d'etre is that I want to run it around the neighborhood for a good test with all it's got to give so I can decide whether to keep it where it is, or go the 420cc route for this current kart. If moved to the next build, I wouldn't have to do anything at all to it, so all of my costs expenditure then would be just for the roller build itself, and that's going to be more of a skeleton than even I ever was.
 

karl

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I think your gonna be just fine.

Yeah the fluid can wash the oil off the cylinder, but I don't see a major risk
to the engine like pre ignition or anything.

The motor is cold, rotating slow under no load. A taste of ether is quite safe in my opinion.
Just don't get carried away with it.
 

Denny

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If possible try to avoid using it. If you have to only use a small shot. You are probably overthinking it, it should start. Once running add a little Sea Foam to the gas and run until tank empty.
 

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at my age ( 74 next month ) and when I go karting it's always with 2 or 3 grandkids each with a kart I only have so many pulls left in me. I use starting fluid on a regular basis. Saves my tired old arms. No known problems and some of the engines have had it used several times over a 2-3 year period.
 
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