shop vac motor?

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Rufio

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hey again,
I've noticed that most shop vacs are rated at 2HP and up, and I was wondering if it's within the realm of possibility to retrofit a motor like that to a go kart or scooter? what would need to be done for it to work, if it can?
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i have one of those motors out of my normal vacuum, not even a shop vac. it does indeed make 2hp. i'm going to use it on my kart but theres a couple problems.
1. AC/DC - household power is AC. this is what the motor is built for. Batteries supply DC power. Luckily for you, all vac motors are universal aka they run on ac and dc.

2. Voltage - wall power is 120 volt or thereabouts. a car battery is 12volts. you can run your motor on 12 volt without damage, but it will make 1/10 of the power. you can use a step-up transformer to turn 12v into 120v, but they are hard to find as the 12 volt side of the transformer will have 120 amps of current.
(volts x amps = watts, 120v x 12a =1440w, 12v x 120a = 1440w)
you can also use an inverter, which is basically a transformer that also converts dc to ac. your motor will be slightly more efficient running on the ac supplied by the inverter instead of the dc from the transformer

3. Driveshaft - First, the driveshaft is attached to a fan, to suck air in the vacuum. this is contained inside a housing usually making up half of the unit's volume. you will have to get this housing off, which isnt too hard. the fans inside should just come off easily after that. the exposed driveshaft is about a quarter inch diameter and 2-3 inches long on mine. it has no keyway, but does have threads on the tip. this connection at the driveshaft shouldnt be too hard to weld to your sprocket somehow

as a sidenote, the threads on the tip of the driveshaft perfectly fit the threads on the inside of the driveshaft in the bottom bracket of my bike (remove the nuts holding the pedals on, they shouldnt fall off.) this might help anyone wanting to convert a bike.
 

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hey again,
I've noticed that most shop vacs are rated at 2HP and up, and I was wondering if it's within the realm of possibility to retrofit a motor like that to a go kart or scooter? what would need to be done for it to work, if it can?
-mark

The last vacuum cleaner motor I checked turned almost 30,000
RPM. I don't think that would be very useful, very difficult to gear it down to the 800 RPM to 1000 RPM that you want your wheel to spin.
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carbon

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the 30 000 rpm will definitely drop to something more normal when you attach it to a load any harder than sucking air. i dont expect to get wheelspin with mine

PS it wont instantly reach 30000 rpm, it will take ages to get even a tenth of that rpm with a load
 

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i didnt think it was just the voltage, i thought it was mostley the amprage that give motors there power
 

carbon

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power usage is directly proportional to battery drain
VxA=W
(volts x amps = watts)
750 watts = 1hp
 

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sorry to bring this back up, but what kinda speed would i be looking at if i was to use a 120v ac motor, a converter, and a 12-24v battery setup? thanks
 
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