running with some extra O2

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ya i know how electrolysis works but did you just fill a bottle with hydrogen and then empty it half way to get half the hydrogen?
 

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Ah well i had two comresser pumps filling two tanks one to 25 psi for the O and 50 for the H and i emptyed all the O and mixed with 25 psi of H, The pumps ran slower then the amount of H and O being made this makingi it nearly pure H and O i belive as long as the system worked ok.
ya i know how electrolysis works but did you just fill a bottle with hydrogen and then empty it half way to get half the hydrogen?
 

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You do know that half the pressure doesn't equal half the volume, right?

I was thinking about the whole "HHO" thing and remembered that people who had run it into their cars had hacked into the MAF sensor wiring and installed pots inline the wiring in order to trick the PCM. I'd be willing to bet a hefty sum that screwing with the MAF readings is the only thing affecting MPG achieved.
 

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Doubtful. I'm not sure how you'd go about calculating that. Will have to research a little when i get home from work.
 

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What about figurinhg a ecushion that would use the weight of the H in comparison to weight of the O so how?
Doubtful. I'm not sure how you'd go about calculating that. Will have to research a little when i get home from work.
 

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What about figurinhg a ecushion that would use the weight of the H in comparison to weight of the O so how?

What?

If comparing weights of the two gasses is what you're getting at, that's already been answered.

Hydrogen atomic mass: 1.00794
Oxygen atomic mass: 15.9994

Atomic mass equals the mass of one mole of said element in grams. One mole is defined by Avagadro's constant: 602,214,150,000,000,000,000,000.

In lameman's terms, 602,214,150,000,000,000,000,000 hydrogen atoms weighs 1.00794 grams.
 

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Then... Whaddya call a small subterranean rodent with dermatological issues and a propensity for working both sides of the fence? Mole Cubed?
 

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Yes i ment to say equashion, So if you took the weight of the total H minus weight of canister divided by 2 = half the total H and since 2H's make up H2O wouldnt half the weight of the H= total O? Its a little confusing but it kinda makes sence to me but im not sure if it would work.
 

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OK hang tough for this one...:lolgoku:

So for a typical turbo you know they are usually one piece( idk how they do this) but none the less i was wondering if ya could make one in Three parts as the attachment shows...

Part 1

The outer caps as you can see will be the circle so the fans can fit. They go to the middle of the fans and have a solid piece on the top and bottom for which they can be bolted to the middle part. the light blue would be an o-ring as to keep any exhaust or air from escaping. the yellow line going through would be the cut point at which would help in the building of a custom turbo.

Part 2

The fans and shaft that connect them will stay the same while fitting the inside the two sides. Im not sure what kind of material this is made out of i think it is carbon something... correct me if im wrong.

Part 3

The middle part would be the same but the outside edges will obviously match up with the outer pieces to be bolted together. As im writing this im still brain storming :thumbsup: but the bottom piece of part 1 and 3 will be threaded somehow so a pipe could be wound up there. The out for the air would go back into the engine(obviously)

I may have forgotten some stuff and constructive criticism would be great. this is just me being the engineer that i wanna be :lolgoku: but i think for making a "custom" turbo i think this may work. possibly

Turbo's are already multiple pieces, most stock car turbos are made of 2 or three housings parts. My supra has a cast iron turbine housing bolted to an aluminum compressor housing.

Also, dont even think about making one. Promise you it wont work. The tolerences in a turbo, as mentioned are very very tight, in addition the compressor and turbine wheels would be very very hard to re-create, and balance properly. and even if you somehow machined everything tight enough, and were able to get custom comp/turbine wheels made you still need to balance everything so it doesnt blow apart at 100,000 rpm.
 

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Yes i ment to say equashion, So if you took the weight of the total H minus weight of canister divided by 2 = half the total H and since 2H's make up H2O wouldnt half the weight of the H= total O? Its a little confusing but it kinda makes sence to me but im not sure if it would work.

Yes, but you have to remember that hydrogen weighs next to nothing (quite literally), so you would likely have trouble weighing it without a crazy accurate scale.
 
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