Removing second output shaft

[Gokarts4Life-11]

I have a tecumseh HM80 that came of a snow blower on my go kart. I'm currently working on putting a torque converter on this engine. The engine still has 2nd out put shaft that was used to turn the tires on the old snow blower. In order to mount the tc I would need to either grind/cut off the second output shaft or remove all of its internals...

What do you guys think the best solution would be?

http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=snowb...t:429,r:1,s:49&tx=104&ty=115&biw=1280&bih=709

 

[wall gator]

look's like some kinda gear reduction,to me. have you taken this off and seen what's there? post some pic's w/unit off, most have a splined pto goin to the driver....

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

I know its not a gear reduction unit, the pto shaft spins at 3600 rpm, if it only spun at 600 (reduction speed) my kart would only go 4mph. :wink2:


You can see the 2nd output shaft between the clutch and the jackshaft

 

[Russ2251]

Can just be cut off flush with no harm done.
Common for snow engines to have them.

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

Can just be cut off flush with no harm done.
Common for snow engines to have them.

Sounds good, I'll put my angle grinder to use

 

[r_chez_08]

I am guessing that comes off the camshaft? If so if you did not like the idea of cutting it you could order a new side cover and cam.

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

Ya that's another idea, Ideally i don't want to spend any money on this so I probably just cut it off

 

[Russ2251]

I am guessing that comes off the camshaft?

Some are just an extension of camshaft. It can be assumed that this model is geared (off camshaft) to turn at 3600rpm.

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

Some are just an extension of camshaft. It can be assumed that this model is geared (off camshaft) to turn at 3600rpm.

That is correct.

 

[kendelrk]

my tecumseh had a clutch brake box just with a hole drilled for it to fit through, dont worry about it, hook it up straight and leave it alone

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

I can't because the back plate of the torque converter will not go against the engine with that 2nd output shaft sticking out

 

[fowler]

drill out the backing plate or cut the shaft off

just dont cut into the seal

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

drill out the backing plate or cut the shaft off

just dont cut into the seal

I could also do that but if I ever want to sell my torque converter I want it to be in original condition, I'll just be careful and cut it off.

Thanks!

 

[machinist@large]

drill out the backing plate or cut the shaft off

just dont cut into the seal

Don't overheat the seal as well; photos make it look like you have to open the case to replace it? PAH

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

I'm going to do my best to grind the second shaft flush with the engine, then sand the wrest.

 

[fowler]

Don't overheat the seal as well; photos make it look like you have to open the case to replace it? PAH

thats a good piont
if u just grind the shaft off the heat from the grinder will warp or distroy the seal

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

thats a good piont
if u just grind the shaft off the heat from the grinder will warp or distroy the seal

How can I prevent this?

 

[fowler]

remove the cover

 

[Gokarts4Life-11]

If I used a hacksaw and sprayed cold water on it at the same time would that do the trick?

 

[fowler]

yes

i dont think it is a tryed method but if i dont want somethin to heat up i put trefolex on it of CRC