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Predator 212 linkage problem?
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Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Ok. After jumping between your 2 threads.
I think the internals of your governor aren't working.
You did post a video of the pedal pulling the cable, but you didnt show the pedal moving the throttle plate. Thats OK though.
With the engine running when you hand activate the throttle to make the engine rev what does the governor arm do?
It should hunt around. If its not moving at all, I thing the internals arent working and you have a dead lever..
If thats the case, I would definitely open the case and look to see what happened and make sure theres no loose pieces inside that will cause catastrophic failure..
Once your cleard, then you can just hook your throttle pedal directly to the carb.
There's an easy way to do this and still use the throttle plate and set up just like you have it.
I think the internals of your governor aren't working.
You did post a video of the pedal pulling the cable, but you didnt show the pedal moving the throttle plate. Thats OK though.
With the engine running when you hand activate the throttle to make the engine rev what does the governor arm do?
It should hunt around. If its not moving at all, I thing the internals arent working and you have a dead lever..
If thats the case, I would definitely open the case and look to see what happened and make sure theres no loose pieces inside that will cause catastrophic failure..
Once your cleard, then you can just hook your throttle pedal directly to the carb.
There's an easy way to do this and still use the throttle plate and set up just like you have it.
My carb throttle is closed when the engine is not running.
Sparkwizard
Well-known member
In that picture, it is wide open.
Nothing
Sorry, of course you are correct. With engine idling, if I manually move the black piece (I was calling this the butterfly) that the gov rod is attached to the engine revs. If I manually move the gov rod the engine revs, this is what should happen, correct? When I start the engine the gov rod pulls the black piece back to idle. When I kill the engine the black piece goes back to full throttle, that is what should happen, correct? Isn’t this proving the governor is working? But nothing happens when I move the plate or the cable whether the engine is running or not. What would this indicate? In the pic, does it appear that all springs and the rod are in their proper place? I know you guys think I’m nuts, and I’m getting closer to that the longer I try to get this working
Sparkwizard
Well-known member
Your explanations seems to be correct. The only link between the big silver lever attached to the cable and the governor arm is a long spring. If that spring is not connected correctly, nothing works right. With the engine OFF, nothing should happen to the governor arm of the butterfly when you pull that big silver lever.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Is the governor arm attached to the shaft correctly? I think it has a flat spot to index it.
If its indexed wrong it will effect how the governor travel moves the arm.
I would really like another video with the engine running and you showing us what happenens when you move things.
Slow and steady framing with a view of the whole top plate and governor arm.
If its indexed wrong it will effect how the governor travel moves the arm.
I would really like another video with the engine running and you showing us what happenens when you move things.
Slow and steady framing with a view of the whole top plate and governor arm.
I held the carb (black part) closed, and felt no difference at all when pulling the lever. I keep feeling like a spring or something is not connected properly somewhere. Does it look like they are in their proper place and right spots and the right springs in that last pic? I tried to show the whole thing.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Check this to see if its index properly.
Not sure what you mean, how do I do that
I checked this and it appeared it is set properly. While looking closely at the pic, I noticed the back gov arm spring looked a lot heavier than the spring on mine so I replaced it with an extra spring I had and now everything is good and my wife rode it around the yard lol. Thanks for the help!
Thanks everyone who tried to help with my mystery problem. After all the crap it appears the only thing wrong was the back gov arm spring was way to light. The po apparently used the wrong spring. Learned a lot about the 212 trying to figure it out.