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Sorry guys, I need to open that pressure valve a bit...

I HATE photobucket!

it is by far the worst and most annoying website I have seen in a while.
And since it seems to be popular the last few weeks to use photobucket in here, it bothers me every day.

Here's why:

photobucket does not allow direct access to an image.
So embedding them here causes a redirect to happen
your browser asks for an image, the server responds with a 302
(moved to: new address)
and your browser ask for the delivered address in that 302.

two outgoing requests per image, one pointless.. always... by design!

Anyways, modern browsers can and will just alter the second request (not accepting html, just images) so the image will be embedded, and the untrained eye doesn't see a difference to a 'good' image hoster.

older browsers, do not alter the request , but always use the same format (still accepting all that's valid, incl html) .
and that's where photobucket fails completely...
it does NOT redirect to the image, instead it redirects to a html page containing said image...
and html cannot be embedded...
there's also no "missing image" sign, since the response is valid..

AND?
the post is there, the images are not.

That's the worst crap I have seen in a while
(and I deal with stuff like this on a daily basis)

Now, update your browser you might say...
Uhm NO!
That's the point...
I have several browsers on my computer, older ones and new ones..
as I said, I deal with stuff like that on a daily basis, and I need to make sure websites run on reasonably old browsers as well as new ones..
When I have to pick my favourite browser.. it's an old one I admit, (unable to alter the request to photobucket)
one reason: 30 open tabs -> 1GB RAM used,
it's recent version: 6 open tabs -> 2.4GB RAM used (six of the above 30 btw)
I can swap browser and even work around that issue with some coding magic on my side...
I'm not concerned about missing something myself at all ;)

The problem is this:
You don't know what browsers other people are using!
I bet some of you don't even know that they might have missed an image somewhere themselves.

And if you want to add pictures, photobucket is the worst possible way of adding them.
Since you'll never know if the reader can or cannot see the image.
Asking for help you may miss the one that is able to help, since he cannot see the image in question.

And in the end, photobucket doesn't serve you well.
bucket.. that's where that :furious2: belongs. PERIOD!

..RANT OVER!

'sid
 

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Sorry guys, I need to open that pressure valve a bit...

I HATE photobucket!

it is by far the worst and most annoying website I have seen in a while.
And since it seems to be popular the last few weeks to use photobucket in here, it bothers me every day.

Here's why:

photobucket does not allow direct access to an image.
So embedding them here causes a redirect to happen
your browser asks for an image, the server responds with a 302
(moved to: new address)
and your browser ask for the delivered address in that 302.

two outgoing requests per image, one pointless.. always... by design!

Anyways, modern browsers can and will just alter the second request (not accepting html, just images) so the image will be embedded, and the untrained eye doesn't see a difference to a 'good' image hoster.

older browsers, do not alter the request , but always use the same format (still accepting all that's valid, incl html) .
and that's where photobucket fails completely...
it does NOT redirect to the image, instead it redirects to a html page containing said image...
and html cannot be embedded...
there's also no "missing image" sign, since the response is valid..

AND?
the post is there, the images are not.

That's the worst crap I have seen in a while
(and I deal with stuff like this on a daily basis)

Now, update your browser you might say...
Uhm NO!
That's the point...
I have several browsers on my computer, older ones and new ones..
as I said, I deal with stuff like that on a daily basis, and I need to make sure websites run on reasonably old browsers as well as new ones..
When I have to pick my favourite browser.. it's an old one I admit, (unable to alter the request to photobucket)
one reason: 30 open tabs -> 1GB RAM used,
it's recent version: 6 open tabs -> 2.4GB RAM used (six of the above 30 btw)
I can swap browser and even work around that issue with some coding magic on my side...
I'm not concerned about missing something myself at all ;)

The problem is this:
You don't know what browsers other people are using!
I bet some of you don't even know that they might have missed an image somewhere themselves.

And if you want to add pictures, photobucket is the worst possible way of adding them.
Since you'll never know if the reader can or cannot see the image.
Asking for help you may miss the one that is able to help, since he cannot see the image in question.

And in the end, photobucket doesn't serve you well.
bucket.. that's where that :furious2: belongs. PERIOD!

..RANT OVER!

'sid
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I use it only as a type of cloud platform for storing the many gb's of images that I have, but that's it. If I want to upload one I save it back to my comp, then actually upload it wherever.
 

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I do not know about all the tech stuff Sid was mentioning but as a regular Joe at a computer I also find that site to be super annoying. When I click someones link and it starts to load Photobucket I just hit stop and do not even bother to look. Photobucket sucks.
 

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I do not know about all the tech stuff Sid was mentioning but as a regular Joe at a computer I also find that site to be super annoying. When I click someones link and it starts to load Photobucket I just hit stop and do not even bother to look. Photobucket sucks.

I also don't like when it opens a new site... I use photobucket, but I delete the front half of the code so it doesn't redirect the user to a new page.

When you copy and paste an IMG from photobucket it also attaches the URL code of their website, like so...

URL=ttp://s1316.photobucket.com/user/Indy47Caddy/media/Go%20Kart/01-Kart-Original-Setup_zpscjeg5upa.gif.html]IMG]ttp://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/Indy47Caddy/Go%20Kart/01-Kart-Original-Setup_zpscjeg5upa.gif[/IMG[/URL

If you delete the items in red, both before and after, it will post just the image and not redirect to a new page. Most people either don't bother or don't know...
 

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While that removes the link, it doesn't remove the issue I'm talking about..
since it's the image url that causes the issue..

take the image url (ending in .jpg or .gif in your example) and copy it to your addressbar..
not the image will load, but the same annoying website Eric doesn't bother to look at ;)

And it's the same when the image is embedded... the call gets redirected for no other reason than to annoy people.
(well.. I think, they think it's 'convenient' for dumb users, that do not want to see the image they're asking for, but a website with all the other images too.... it's NOT! it's plain annoying)

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I totally agree!!!!!!!

My take is this; if they could load their stuff up to photo junk, then they should have the skills to load them up here. If their idea is that I have to deal with all the crap when they ask for help, the odds are pretty high that help won't be very forthcoming.

There's one big exception.... Video. There's way bigger forum's than this (complete with extensive advertising to pay the freight) that don't support video either, which suggests that the issue's are due to more than just the size of the forum.

The reason I don't have a problem with YouTube links is that when I run YouTube thru Google Chrome, the only adds I have to deal with are in the video itself........
 

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Well....when I see links I have to click on.....I usually click on something else....(like the back button..)....and go to a different thread.....

And just an aside....as awesome as all the build entries are....and as much as I pretty much read every thread.....

One contestant is not using thumbnails....so....that build is not getting much attention from me....
 

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One contestant is in fact using photbucket...
annoying as that in itself is.. the build is awesome :D
too good to be ignored.

And while I understand, that a lousy internet conenction
or a tiny screensize (tablet or phone displays)
or some combination of both makes thumbnails a good idea;
on a regular PC monitor they're almost too small already.

On a new fancy 4k monitor even with a 28" screen ... it's just a pain to try to identify the image (indeed thumb nail size.. at arms length)

So personally I'm pro thumbnails.. but I'd increase them a bit (luckily I'm not in charge ;))

That is if the image is on diygk servers....

Redirected larger verisions (photobucket, tinypic etc...)
I wouldn't click at all.

So as far as I'm concerned I'm happy that the ones that do use such hosters do not attach them as thumbnails!

The Ncode resizer that's in charge of the embedded pics (or their size for that matter)
does a decent job of fitting them into the board width.

'sid
 
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