Our 1st kart

[ojohnny]

Project for my son (9) and myself. I think it's a manco? picked it up at a yardsale for $100, strippped it down and repainted. Going to redo the pads I used pipe insullation and duct tape but I don't like the way they turned out now, made the header at work. Replaced the pedals and put them on backwards so he can reach them also has mandantory pirate flag on antena. Briggs 13200, any Ideas on horsepower rating? I can't seem to find much info on either the engine or cart. I want to put a drum or disk brake on it in the next couple of weeks and replace the tires with some slicks.

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Looks like a 5hp flatty. If you can get me the model type and code numbers i can tell you anything you need to know about it.

 

[88s10Durango]

Very nice kart for a $100 !! What type of brake is on it now , looks like single wheel drive ?? We need a pic of that Pirate Flag , lol , Bill

 

[ojohnny]

What type of brake is on it now , looks like single wheel drive ?? Bill

It just has metal plates that push against the tires when you hit the pedal and they don't work very well. Someone told me that you can put a band brake around the clutch Both wheels spin when it's raised off the ground so I guess it has a solid axle passing through the rear tube.

 

[88s10Durango]

Yah I`ve never thought about a band brake on the clutch ,, sure it would work if mounted good , I myself like the disk brake on the axle and their quite cheap if you look around , I just bought 2 calipers and 2 rotors I`m going to use on my front wheels for $ 56 Canadian ,, my rear rotor is off of a 150cc ATV Quad ,, Bill

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Putting a band brake on the clutch wouldnt be a very good idea. You could cut a section of the tubing that supports the axle out, and put a disc brake rotor on the axle, That is if the axle is keyed all the way through.

 

[crazycart]

I have the SAME KART man! Dang i had fun on that thing. I had stripped it down, painted it black except with green wheels! Its a real good kart. Its been sitting in the back for a few years now...

A few mods i made though Has rear suspension, just cant tell..i used the shock for something else.

 

[newrider3]

Putting a band brake on the clutch wouldnt be a very good idea. You could cut a section of the tubing that supports the axle out, and put a disc brake rotor on the axle, That is if the axle is keyed all the way through.

Dead axle bro.

You can put a drum for a band brake on the drive wheel, they usually match the sprocket bolt pattern.

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Dead axle bro.

You can put a drum for a band brake on the drive wheel, they usually match the sprocket bolt pattern.

He said that when you lifted up the rear end and gave it gas, both tires would spin...live axle.

It just has metal plates that push against the tires when you hit the pedal and they don't work very well. Someone told me that you can put a band brake around the clutch Both wheels spin when it's raised off the ground so I guess it has a solid axle passing through the rear tube.

 

[crazycart]

i have the same cart...dead axle. It probably spins form vibration.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Yeah. Looking at the tube, sprocket location, engine location, and that nut holding the right rear wheel on, definately a one-wheel-peeler... Not that Crazycart doesn't know his own kart, but you know how folks tend to mod stuff over time :Angel_anim:

Personally, I'm dead-set against placing a brake mechanism on anything BUT the rear wheel or axle. Murphy's law dictates that the ONE TIME your chain breaks or falls off happens to be at a moment when functioning brakes would keep you out of the hospital! For clarity- putting a band brake on the clutch will not do anything if the chain fails.
Cheers- Chris

 

[gokartmozart]

Brakes on the clutch, I think, would not be good. As someone mentioned if the chain fails, probably when you would definitely need brakes, you would not have brakes. Also the physics of it, the clutch rotates faster than the drive sprocket, and its smaller. By that it would require more force and generate more heat. Heat would not be good for the clutch.

 

[Blazkowiez]

This is a one wheel drive, scrub brakes. Its a varied 415 model Manco, great little kart, very sturdy. Yes its a 5.0hp Briggs.

Where do you ride the kart? If you're on street, they make slicks for the 4.10x3.50-5 tire, keep in mind that while you might want a drum for a brake assembly scrub brakes work they stop both tires equally. Unless you're planning on driving in the pouring rain they are cheap and very reliable.

Someone at one time put a small brace under your rear axle, these had a tendency to bow slightly over the years, you might consider a larger bar, even 5/8" cold rolled just so support it. We did that exact same many many times in the early 90's when these karts came in for repairs, here is one example of the same kart you have we had back at the shop for sale for Christmas this year.

Johnny, you've got a rod and 2 holes in each side of the rod, over time brake rods stretch from constantly force. You can take out some of the slack in the pedal and your brakes by moving each side in slightly, alternatively if you have a torch in your shop, make a s-bend in your rod, it will take out the slack and make it like new. The bending may not be necessary, but from your pictures I can see you have a large amount of slack between the scrub and your tire, it must need to bottom out the pedal to stop.

 

[Kenny_McCormic]

Wrapping a band around the clutch works till the chain snaps, taking the slack out of the scrub brakes would probably help it greatly.

 

[newrider3]

Something tells me he already either gave up or figured it out by now. Last login 4/2009.

 

[Kenny_McCormic]

Something tells me he already either gave up or figured it out by now. Last login 4/2009.

Brakes on the clutch, I think, would not be good. As someone mentioned if the chain fails, probably when you would definitely need brakes, you would not have brakes. Also the physics of it, the clutch rotates faster than the drive sprocket, and its smaller. By that it would require more force and generate more heat. Heat would not be good for the clutch.

Somebody beat him up for reviving a dead thread!

 

[Blazkowiez]

**** it all, I was just trying to help and did not even look to see that he was gravedigging, shoot me for not finding that. Thanks guys. Pwn that foo!