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[ehurst55]

Hello go kart people! My name is Erik and i recently got a go kart. It appears as though someone torched it, literally. The center section of the machine is burned out completely. This is making it difficult to determine exactly what I have. The steering wheel, seat, wiring, throttle cable are all burnt to a crisp. It had two lights mounted on the front upper frame rail near the steering wheel. It has a 6 hp tecumseh engine with a centrifigual torque converter like a snowmobile. The front tires are also torched and are 145/70-6. I found a supplier that had some pics online and this thing looks just like a Manco 6.5 hp ez rider full suspension kart model 906C single seat. However, on the roll bar, I can barely make out the word "Rattler" on the burnt sticker. So, I'm confused. What is this thing? It looks like parts are out there but I want to make sure I'm buying the right stuff.

Any experts that can weigh in?? I'm attaching a few pics. The one pic is of the floor pan where I found a number etched into it. Not sure i this is useful or not.

Thanks, Erik

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Welcome to the forum! I don't know factory fun karts to save my life, but someone here will. Good luck on the rebuild!

...and why the he// would somebody torch their kart? Insurance claim?

 

[cOw]

Some sort of crazy ritual thing...or an effigy perhaps?

 

[landuse]

to the forum. I am not too sure what you have, but it should be sweet once you have restored it. Are they no markings anywhere on the kart?

 

[souperman000]

We found it was some variation of a Manco Condor in your ID thread.

to the forum!

 

[peterbilt]

Manco's had front suspension? Could be a yerfdog

 

[ehurst55]

Thanks everybody!

Hello Everyone,

Thank you for the warm welcome!!!

I have posted more pictures on the go kart discussion thread. The general concensus is this machine is a manco condor, but there are still some things that look different than pictures others have posted.

At this point I think I'm just gonna run with the notion its a Condor and start getting parts together.

Does anyone know where I can get some sort of wiring diagram for this? The harness is torched and I have no idea what's what.

Thanks again everybody.

cOw..... your comment made me lmao!!!!

 

[fowler]

it will be easy to work out the wireing its only a kart

just follow the wires back to the engine and determine where they went from there

was it electric start or did it have a battery

u are more that likly going to have a wire going from the coil to your kill switch then a eire returning to ground

then u will have a second coil that will may have run the lights
it may go to a retifier or may have gone straight to the light circuit

u shuld be able to fire the engine up with out any wireing but id advise u atleast get a kill switch in first


is the enigne and related components ok?

 

[ehurst55]

RE: Fowler's questions

Hi Fowler,

The engine actually started on the first pull, if you can believe that!! The clutch seems to work too. So, one less thing to worry about. It is NOT electric start.... I wish!

The wiring went to a harness that comes out of the engine cover to a plastic connector that also had a twist type fuse inline. It appears it for the lights and possibly a kill switch? I did not find any evidence of a kill switch anywhere on the kart or in the charred remains of the wiring harness and lights. Is it possible someone bypassed it?

I think it should be easy to figure out. Right now I'm collecting parts and getting ready to strip the chassis so I can get it sandblasted and ready for paint.

Thanks for your help. E

 

[jamyers]

Welcome!

Your kart is a good example of what I refer to as "DPO" (Dreaded Previous Owner = polite form). As in: "The DPO left a pile of oil-soaked rags in the seat and fired up a cutting torch nearby and here's the result!"

It's unlikely that the engine would have a charging coil inside the flywheel if it didn't come with an electric starter motor, so my bet is that the lights were an add-on, powered by a battery (that the DPO either recharged or replaced when dead).

Your basic small-engine has one wire (not counting the sparkplug lead) coming out from behind the blower housing, it goes to one or more places/methods of grounding it out to either the engine and/or kart frame, which shorts out the ignition and kills the engine. I'm not sure where of the exact location on Tecumseh engines, but a little poking around ought to find it. To add/replace the remote kill switch up at the driver's position, simply tap into it at the engine, run a wire up to the steering wheel area, and wire it through a $2 toggle switch to a ground. Open the switch and the engine will start, close it and engine dies. You NEED a kill switch at the driver's position!!!