No I haven't at this point. I found out I would need to change flywheel after removing governor. So I have bought a new Predator ghost 212 cc. I installed on my Kart and got the motor started but the wheels would turn fast and as soon as shut choke off the motor would die. I even disconnected the throttle cable and tried to start and the wheels were turning.
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Whitetrashrocker
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So instead of listening to our through advise. You gave up. Bought an over priced 212 (waste of money IMO) and now having issues with it too?
No you don't have to change fly wheels with a governor removal. The valves will float first. The rod will let go before the flywheel will.
Good luck bro.
No you don't have to change fly wheels with a governor removal. The valves will float first. The rod will let go before the flywheel will.
Good luck bro.
I got the new motor running fine as soon as I put the carb it had on it to begin with. Thanks Bro!
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I wasn't talking to you, I was asking Whitetrashrocker a question because I quoted him. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Next time I will PM him.
Hilarious comedy of errors!
And you need to read a thread we have over in the FAQ about flywheels and governors....
https://www.diygokarts.com/community/threads/governors-flywheels-and-an-internet-full-of-crap.49379/
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Is it fast and are you having fun ? That's the important part.
Yes and Yes
Edwin Spangler
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I got one of them ghost motors... Bout to chuck it off a effin bridge.
Awesome looking kart man!
Awesome looking kart man!
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FYI:
Many carburetors are not set-up properly out of the box and it is wrong to assume they are. In your case, the carburetor was apparently not set with a proper idle. The mixture screws are often set to 1 to 1½ turns out because that is a precise and repeatable factory standard setting, but the idle screw is more of a random element. I think it is safe to assume the factory worker just turns the idle screw all the way in or enough to make sure it does not fall out or get lost and then puts it in the box.
Regardless if it has a throttle slide [motorcycle style] or throttle plate, you should inspect the carburetor first and determine where the throttle rests when it's "at idle" or closed as far as you can close it. In fact you should turn the idle screw out to where it won't idle and try to start it, then slowly turn the idle screw in until it will start and run. Doing it this way ensures you won't start off with a runaway engine before you even get a chance to properly break it in. Most people don't want their engine roaring to maximum RPM on the first start or any start.
Just to be clear: if you lift the kart's wheels off the ground with the engine running at proper idle, the wheels will start turning [slowly] due to "rotational drag" or whatever you want to call it. The clutch bushing [which is mounted to the crankshaft] is rotating inside the clutch housing and it naturally wants to turn the entire assembly with it to include the chain, axle sprocket and wheels. This happens with the clutch disengaged. If you allow it to, the wheels will turn faster but only up to a certain speed. If you put the idling kart on the ground, it may slowly drive away from you [especially if it is lightweight or has really slick wheel bearings] but that is just the way it is.
Why you wanna chuck it?
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Oh I want to alright! I want to start it, keep it at WOT, and throw it off a bridge so I can hear the damn thing die and not have to worry about it anymore.
-But I cant because the boy spent a pretty penny on it and I regrettably agreed to "take care of it". I kinda have to anyhow, my two younger ones ride it and theres no way Ill let them operate something that boy maintains... -or doesnt maintain, however you wanna see it lol.
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I misspoke. Seems that the way the carburetor was adjusted out of the box, it would only allow the engine to run on choke but with the choke off, it probably would be too lean and unable to run much at all. When the choke was activated, it supplied a proper air/fuel mixture for combustion and the carburetor throttle was also above idle, perhaps wide open at the same time. Full throttle and choke on = vrooooom!
Anyway, that's just my wild-donkey guess with a little theory applied.
Whitetrashrocker
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Dont forget that pesky washer.
Got it, Thanks