New to go karts. Questions that i havent found an answer to.

[TonyMontana214]

Straight to the point i am trying to build a go kart that looks like a yard kart. Thing is that i want to put a live axel, TC, 22 hp predator. My question can any yard kart i find on CL handle that or do i need to build a frame. I have a neighbor who is experienced in welding and would help me out there. What wouldnyou guys recommend me doing. Please help me out. Im funding this project and dont want to mess up

 

[chancer]

A good solidyard kart should handle that. I have seen it here before.
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[Jrgunn5150]

I haven't seen a yard kart without a live axle, and most seem to have converters too.

But, you'll want to find something that has an 8 hp or better motor on it now, so you get a 1" diameter TC, otherwise you may as well start from scratch.

 

[TonyMontana214]

I haven't seen a yard kart without a live axle, and most seem to have converters too.

But, you'll want to find something that has an 8 hp or better motor on it now, so you get a 1" diameter TC, otherwise you may as well start from scratch.

What do you mean? Like if the kart i find has a 6.5 hp then it wouldnt so well with a 22 hp.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

What do you mean? Like if the kart i find has a 6.5 hp then it wouldnt so well with a 22 hp.

No, if you find a kart with a 6.5, it will have a 3/4" clutch/TC setup. Like mine does.

So then, you'll need to buy a motor AND a clutch, probably jackshaft and everything. By then you may as well have scratch built it rather than hacked it together.

 

[landuse]

Even a comet 40 series is not going to handle 22HP. It is rated to 18HP. You are going to have to get a better TC than that. Even the 500 series is rated only to 16HP. I am not too sure what you could use.

A comet 40 series might work, but you will be going through belts at a rapid rate. 22HP on a yard kart is not really realistic. Why not just put a 16HP engine on it. You are not going to see enormous differences between the two

 

[Poboy kartman]

I see by your location you're on the wrong side of I-35...but call GoPowersports and chat with those guys. They can help give you some direction and might even have something you could use...and are probably close enough for you to visit.

 

[Holybeen]

Haven't I seen somewhere a converter called a 44 magnum series? Could it handle that many horses?

Never mind it's only rated 18 horse. Can't find anything over that

 

[SkidooTNT]

I'm not exactly sure what you'd have access to in Dallas but you could try looking for snowmobile clutches. My sled pushed 160HP and it has nothing more then a torque converter.

 

[gman3850]

if you really want to push hp you'll need a 780 drive and either a 770, 780, or 790 driven setup. It is what the 18hp deuces use, and many of the amphibious karts

http://beltpalace.com/comet302405a.html - drive
http://beltpalace.com/comet301789a.html - driven

 

[Jrgunn5150]

if you really want to push hp you'll need a 780 drive and either a 770, 780, or 790 driven setup. It is what the 18hp deuces use, and many of the amphibious karts

http://beltpalace.com/comet302405a.html - drive
http://beltpalace.com/comet301789a.html - driven

Correct, they are on Golf Carts also. I beleive the big Manco had one as well. Not a 40 series.

 

[chancer]

Yeah My Honda FL30 Odysey had a TC. Had to be over 22HP.
Is that what the 770 and 780 are?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Yeah My Honda FL30 Odysey had a TC. Had to be over 22HP.
Is that what the 770 and 780 are?

IDK, could be, but that was a 2 stroke, different powerband and engagement.

 

[SkidooTNT]

Not sure what you guys are all exposed to where your from but up here in Canada snowmobiles push 160HP stock and over 230HP all decked out have dual clutches or torque converters as you call them. Also both Polaris, Yamaha, and Canam quads all have torque converters as well. Not sure about Polaris and Yamaha but the Canam 1000's can push 130HP decked out. There are lots of clutches out there you can use you just have to know where to look. Clutches from a quad would have to be modified as they are designed to fit with a gear box. Clutches from a snowmobile are simple and probably you best bet if you can find them used. Primary bolts to motor secondary bolts to jack shaft. All you'd have to fab would be a good dust cover as winter riding is nearly sterile. Dust isn't really even considered a problem.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Not sure what you guys are all exposed to where your from but up here in Canada snowmobiles push 160HP stock and over 230HP all decked out have dual clutches or torque converters as you call them. Also both Polaris, Yamaha, and Canam quads all have torque converters as well. Not sure about Polaris and Yamaha but the Canam 1000's can push 130HP decked out. There are lots of clutches out there you can use you just have to know where to look. Clutches from a quad would have to be modified as they are designed to fit with a gear box. Clutches from a snowmobile are simple and probably you best bet if you can find them used. Primary bolts to motor secondary bolts to jack shaft. All you'd have to fab would be a good dust cover as winter riding is nearly sterile. Dust isn't really even considered a problem.

Snowmobile clutches are an option, but cost and what RPM and torque it takes to engage them would be the hold up.

If you buy the Comet, or clones, they are designed for the industrial engines he wants to run, they fit and work now.

I'm personally of the opinion, that if you want more than 16 hp, you want a Snowmobile/quad/streetbike engine anyway, cost get's insane on big clutches and stuff.

 

[Poboy kartman]

I'm not exactly sure what you'd have access to in Dallas but you could try looking for snowmobile clutches. My sled pushed 160HP and it has nothing more then a torque converter.

A snowmobile in Dallas??? Like trying to find an ice house at the North Pole!

 

[SkidooTNT]

Great points. I actually forgot about engagement rpm. You could get a good used set off any old sled a scrap yard for a good price, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to bring the engagement down. I know you can do it. People just usually bring the rpm up not down.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

A snowmobile in Dallas??? Like trying to find an ice house at the North Pole!

After we moved north, i went down every summer to stay with my Aunt, I remember one of the neighbor kids asking me if snowmobiles were real, and if I had to ride one to school lol.

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Great points. I actually forgot about engagement rpm. You could get a good used set off any old sled a scrap yard for a good price, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to bring the engagement down. I know you can do it. People just usually bring the rpm up not down.

Yeah, for my winter buggy build I'm probably going to buy a cheap sled, pull the motor and clutch, and scrap the rest. In Michigan you can get a 4-500 for about as many dollars.

 

[SkidooTNT]

People like to drag race them Poboy. You can but special tracks for it and everything. If he's near a track there might be a few crazies down there with them.

You just can't beet 0 to 90mph in 6 seconds. Lol. Once you try it your hooked.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I see fools dunk them in Silver Lake every year. As a matter of fact, they'll be doing it next weekend by the score.

They can skip right a crossed the water until they don't lol.