new guy new cart and 2 new problems

[92f150300six]

ok first hey im the new guy.problem#1 the kid were riding the cart yesterday and it was stalling like crazy as they were driving and cart was warmed up.it ran fine if it was just sitting or running slow so i set the mix screw and 1 and 3/4 turns out seem to run best there after that it ran fine today did the same thing played with the carb a little and ran fine after that. but i still think somthing is wrong will find out next time they ride it(or me lol)problem#2 after they were done riding the clucth keep on grabbing as i was pushing it in the shop so i started it and it grabed and took off. so im guessing its dirty or bad so i try to take it off remove the set screw and the bolt that goes in the shaft but no luck on it coming off. is there a puller i need to get or will a three jaw puller work.thanks for any help u guys can give. o and i think the is a 5hp briggs flat head but with no sticker and i dont know where the block # is(or if there is any)

 

[kibble]

Maybe dirty carb? Might wanna remove and clean it up.

 

[92f150300six]

any idea on the clucth how to get it off

 

[kibble]

If there's evidence of rust, or even if not, try putting some WD-40 or some other penetrating fluid on it to help loosen the rust, then try to pull it off with the puller. Be careful not to get the spray on the clutch shoes.

 

[92f150300six]

ok ill get the puller out and some wd40 and try to take this off

 

[gocartkid]

If there's evidence of rust, or even if not, try putting some WD-40 or some other penetrating fluid on it to help loosen the rust, then try to pull it off with the puller. Be careful not to get the spray on the clutch shoes.

I actually had the same clutch problem yesterday...but my clutch has NO rust on it and it is "new" (per the previous owner and I believe him). Was it just too hot? I got it to disengage, and sometimes it will smoke when it is really hot. It also seems to stay partly engaged, though not enough to move the kart or stall it out. Maybe the answer to my question will help 92f150300six with his problem....

 

[redcali]

It also seems to stay partly engaged, though not enough to move the kart or stall it out.

what makes you think this? how do you know if it doesnt move the kart or stall it?

 

[gocartkid]

what makes you think this? how do you know if it doesnt move the kart or stall it?

I know b/c when the tire is off the ground it turns; so the clutch is partialy engaged.

 

[redcali]

oh i see. not entirely sure if thats a terrible thing though. if you have an automatic clutch and little to no resistance in your driving wheel, espec yours with its single wheel drive, i can see it not fully disengaging.

 

[gocartkid]

oh i see. not entirely sure if thats a terrible thing though. if you have an automatic clutch and little to no resistance in your driving wheel, espec yours with its single wheel drive, i can see it not fully disengaging.

I was just mentioning it....I wasn't sure if it contributed to the problems we are having. Anybody know why our clutches did this? Now I really want to know.

 

[kibble]

Sometimes just the small amount of friction present in the bearings of the clutch is enough to make them rotate somewhat if the tires are off the ground. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but you should be able to stop them manually, if you can't, then there's either too much friction or it's engaging too soon. You can tell the difference.

 

[gocartkid]

Sometimes just the small amount of friction present in the bearings of the clutch is enough to make them rotate somewhat if the tires are off the ground. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but you should be able to stop them manually, if you can't, then there's either too much friction or it's engaging too soon. You can tell the difference.

Yes, I was able to stop it manually in that instance (when the wheel is off the ground). What I don't get, however, was that when I fired it up it took off and ran me over! (you can bet the other times I started it that I was NOWHERE in the way of the kart) It did this about 5 times until I put it in the air, fired it up, and set it down and drove it away. After that the clutch operated awesome...so I'm just going to guess and say it got stuck for whatever reason. It's fine now though.

 

[92f150300six]

ok guys i got my clucth fixed. but damn im still havein problems with my carb.i cant set the mix for the carb right 1 1/2 out is to fat so turn it in 1/4 to thin so turn it out a little runs great take it on a lap bout half way though it starts to bog like its flooding . so ok its to fat thin it up some again then it stalls at take off.but now if i stop while its bogging down let it ideal for a moment .i can take off fine half a lap later its flooding again. so what im wandering is there a fuel return in these carbs. and also if some one can tell me does there mix screw have a sharp point to it or is it rounded mine is round but doesnt look to smashed.

 

[THE_REAL_RAT_FINK]

You should get a rebuild kit for the carb if you haven't done so already. They aren't too expensive and solve a lot of issues. Or, just go to harbor freight and BOOM blue motor on your kart. Lol, nvm.

 

[92f150300six]

i should win a prize i fixed it. can anyone guess what it was? well i cant wate to tell u . it was sand i flushed ou the carbs many times got it all cleaned up. and i got a ton out of the tank. but i had a thought while i have this thing apart why not take that gov off and swap in a 3 hp flywheel and prolly a new cam and i may mill down the head or mill me a hole new one out of alumanum. or i could mill the head like i did when i was 14(beltsander)lol

 

[kibble]

Sand? That couldn't have been good! Did you make sure none was in the engine?

 

[92f150300six]

no not yet but im pulling it apart soon

 

[2or3wheels]

yeah sand is bad.


And as for the clutch spining, on my snowblower with a clutch it shinp when your trying to start it, not when idleing. But if i put the drive in gear and pull it it does not spin, it is just friction, as to why yours is locked up maybe the springs are wore out?

 

[oscaryu1]

Sand on a 4 stoke = screwed up cylinder, rings, piston, valves...ect... very bad.

On a 2 stroke it would be worse.

 

[92f150300six]

yeah the sand didnt help it any i had to pull it apart the cly isnt too bad a good hone and it will be fine