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My ignorant college professor. [Rant]

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As the title says, this is a bit of a rant. I'm really just hoping this will take my mind off this sh*t because I've been laying in bed for a few hours now, not being able to sleep just because I'm so irritated by this. Feel free to read it if you want. If you don't, don't.

Anyways - I have this guy for 7 of my 10 total classes per week. I can't really get away from him. And just about everyone, including other instructors, doesn't like him.

Basically, he believes his way is the only way. He's got a doctorate in engineering, and he's head of the engineering department, yet he can't see how alternatives other than the first things he thinks of would be suitable. I won't even start getting into examples because I would probably fill up 10 pages. Here's what happened today though.

He teaches my statics class. He gave us one of those homework problems that is difficult enough to where he doesn't expect anyone to be able to get it. No one even understood what the question was asking, the wording was that terrible, but that's beside the point. I made an attempt at it and did it wrongly. Turns out some object is supposed to rotate about some point rather than not move and deflect a force - Whatever, I wasn't expecting to have figured out what the heck that thing was saying.

For anyone who cares, it basically said to find the balance point of an object with an external force on it, when the balance point is along a given line.

At the beginning he basically yells at me for swinging my vectors from the 0 degree mark (which is what you're supposed to do with vectors) rather than having my degree label match the completely unrelated pictures I draw for reference of the trig functions. Then we move on to the question no one really got.

While everyone's talking about it I figure out what it actually meant. So I start solving it myself, Dr. Doofus starts scribbling stuff on the board. I find the torque when the object is supported from one end of the line, then the other. Then I put the two in a ratio with the distance of the line from the object's edge to edge to find out where the torque would be zero, meaning it wouldn't tip, meaning that's the blance point. I look back up to the board and there's this huge block of random text and numbers... I don't even really try to figure out what it says. For me to understand things, it has to have a meaning to me. If I follow some random long contrived process with no logical intermediate steps, I feel like I'm just throwing random numbers together for sh*ts and giggles and then betting my grade that I got the answer right. It just doesn't fly with me. And when you're supposed to be teaching people to build bridges and buildings like this... bad things will happen. Anyways, back on topic, I sat there and waited until he was done and let us 'try' to do it (basically, the whole class but me just copied what he had on the board)

So there's like 8 people in this class - it's not like I shouldn't be able to talk to him about the problem. I call him over, ask him if I got it right. The conversation basically goes like this:


"Yeah, you got it right, but how did you get the answer?"

[I start explaining how I got the answer and he interrupts me]

"You see, if you're on the job, and your boss asks you how you got the number, you have to be able to explain it to him."

"I can explain it to you if you'd like."

"No, that's not the point, people have to be able to understand your work or it's not credible."

(As a side note, I had a clearly laid out table for calculating torque from each point, as well as a line for calculating the point of zero torque on the line. His 'work', again, was a giant block of seemingly random text and numbers. Also, at this point, everyone in the class is basically staring at him.)

[I start trying to explain what I did again, he interrupts me again, and at this point I'm just about ready to take my hard cover text book and start hitting him in the head]

He basically says "I don't have time to argue about this"... when everyone else in the class was completely confused and he obviously had all the time in the world. Not to mention he was the only one starting to flip out. Then he said something along the lines of "You can't do it that way anyways because you need to find the resultant" -- For one, he told us to do the question in the book, which does not tell you to find any form of resultant. And he didn't give us any specific instructions for the question. Also, he didn't have a resultant in his answer. And finally, the only resultant that would have any practical purpose in the real world would be one easily calculated from the point I had already found (because we were essentially 'combining' 3 forces at 3 different locations, it's not possible to get a true 'resultant' that actually means something before you get the point of balance... the resultant was supposedly and intermediate step to that)


Other people in the class were 'getting the answer' (i.e. copying what was on the board -- seriously, I asked them how they did it an they said they had no idea and that they just copied what was on the board, including their personal choice of explicatives) Multiple people had asked Dr. Doofus to elaborate, to which he said so little so vaguely, he was basically wasting all of our times with trying to figure out what he even meant. The general consensus was that he had no idea what he was talking about and he copied how to get the answer out of the back of his teacher's book.


So yeah, I'm taking 21 credit hours this semester (full time college student is considered 12, just fyi... and yes, this guy, head of the department, is the person who decided it would be best if I took this many) and have to deal with this guy's crap for 7 of my 10 classes. Good times.
 

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Is his name David Earnst at Texas Tech? lol

Sounds just like my Thermodynamics professor there. He said on the first day that he never gives As because an A is a perfect grade and no one is perfect. Unfortunately, this is the bonus learning you get in college...how to deal with A-hole superiors and not go crazy. You're only like a week in now and off to a bad start.

You have to Cool Hand Luke this ba$tard. Sit in the front row. Ask questions about everything (no such thing as a dumb question.) Even if he berates you, you will cause him to clarify it for someone else in the class afraid to ask for fear of looking too lost.

Make a study group of three or four of those guys who also hate him and stick together. Do your homework at your first break available and try to make it during his office hours. Bombard him with questions. Do all this and you will do the best you can.

Here's the bad part. He will still win. If you become valdictorian super cum laud, he will take credit for it. You have to deny him that credit in your head and just give that Luke smile.

I made a B in Thermodynamics. That's the highest grade he gave which extrapolates to an A by my calculations. So, I beat the ba$tard as far as I'm concerned.

Cool Hand Luke......watch it this weekend and kick class next week!!
 

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Make a study group of three or four of those guys who also hate him and stick together. Do your homework at your first break available and try to make it during his office hours. Bombard him with questions. Do all this and you will do the best you can.

So many people have dropped the engineering program because of him, there's only 7 people in the second year engineering program. There are a few more people in there just to take classes... but hardly any. Probably 50 people had gone into in the first year. Everyone knew everyone within a day of class. And between classes, most of us just sit in the CAD lab doing homework.

I was actually planning on transferring to a parallel program they have at U of D once I got out of DelTech, but it was cancelled this year without warning, supposedly because the program as a whole didn't bring the college money. I would assume because there wasn't enough people. I wonder why.
 

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And yet another reason Im not going to college!

I can sympathizes; I went the tech/ trades route only to find a lot of bottom feeders in the trades who don't like anyone coming in the door who can learn faster than they can and is willing to do it.

I was actually planning on transferring to a parallel program they have at U of D once I got out of DelTech, but it was cancelled this year without warning, supposedly because the program as a whole didn't bring the college money. I would assume because there wasn't enough people. I wonder why.

It sucks, but unless you are willing to just drop out and throw it all away, Orange Krate has the most viable way ahead you probably have. And that's F****** Bu** Sh*t.

The last thing you want to do is blow up on his a**. I lost it toward an adjunct faculty staffer once who was.... well, lets just say he had some real issues. The ONLY reason I didn't get expelled with one, probably two civil suites against me was because the whole thing went down in the hallway with 6-8 full time staff sticking their heads out to see what the war was about.


If I had known just how much heat was going to be thrown at me I would have just walked out the door. I almost could have kissed the dean for student/Alumni relations when he told me that I was getting out with only 2 yrs academic probation; the "other person" never had his contract renewed for the beginning of the next term. I leave the details at that.
 

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Hah, you should have seen my high school shop teacher. He had freshmen working on a riding lawnmover unsupervised. They lift it up with a pneumatic jack, and only a pneumatic jack. First time they lift it up, it slips off and falls straight down. He saw this, went back to what he was doing. Their solution? Lift it up again, climb under it, and start working on it! Again, the shop teacher saw this. Went back off to do whatever.

I got a good ways away from that, and didn't want to have anything to do with it. Thankfully, nothing bad happened. But really, how stupid can you get?
 

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wwowowow not good. once i was carrying a riding mower up a steep hill covered in ice in january............ with my dad carrying the back end.... and i lost my foot and slipped and the next thing i knew my nose was barely an inch below the lower part of the frame in the front.....i could have smacked my head on the underside of the frame and had it fall ontop of me.
 

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out of all thesse stories, i think i had one of the best shop teachers, i had woodshop for a while, i loved it, the teacher was nice, and we alawys had somthing fun to do, i was cutting out a co2 car on the band saw and nicked my thumb, didnt even know it, before i found out what was happening, she picked me up, put me on the table and was cleaning the cut, and she made me sit down for like 10 minutes to make sure i was fine, and then called my mom to tell her, i think that was one of my most responsible teachers,
 

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Your still gonna have some crazy teachers in tech school. You havent lived until your shop teacher chucks a speed handle at the floor because you did something stupid.

Forget the speed handle; try having one of your classmates turn on a 15 inch dia. metal lathe at 2000 RPM without having the chuck clamped to the spindle nose!:oops:

(For those of the machinist persuasion, 12in. chuck, D1-6 spindle nose)

Fortunately, the lathes were set at an angle from the wall in the row; I only got to watch the 100 or so lb. chuck go by about a foot to my left instead of head on. Still had to check my shorts though.:ack2:

Also, our instructor taught us some new words that day.
 

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out of all thesse stories, i think i had one of the best shop teachers, i had woodshop for a while, i loved it, the teacher was nice, and we alawys had somthing fun to do, i was cutting out a co2 car on the band saw and nicked my thumb, didnt even know it, before i found out what was happening, she picked me up, put me on the table and was cleaning the cut, and she made me sit down for like 10 minutes to make sure i was fine, and then called my mom to tell her, i think that was one of my most responsible teachers,

And therein lies the reason.
 

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Forget the speed handle; try having one of your classmates turn on a 15 inch dia. metal lathe at 2000 RPM without having the chuck clamped to the spindle nose!

That... wow.

Kinda like when someone leaves a wrench on the spindle of the mill that's too short to catch on anything on its way around, then they turn it on. The things come flying off fast enough to put a nice size hole in a cinder block wall.
 

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"statics class"?

Sounds like what we're learning in Physics C in highschool lol. Torque/equilibrium.
 

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"statics class"?

Sounds like what we're learning in Physics C in highschool lol. Torque/equilibrium.

It's like physics, but you throw in stuff like deflection with load and yield points of materials and the like.
 

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. They lift it up with a pneumatic jack, and only a pneumatic jack. First time they lift it up, it slips off and falls straight down. He saw this, went back to what he was doing. Their solution? Lift it up again, climb under it, and start working on it! Again, the shop teacher saw this. Went back off to do whatever.

thats like when we were pulling an engine outta a 789c cat truck (10 tonne engine)

we had the engine half way out when we found a wire still connected

so one of the other apprentics jumped down in the 2 foot gap between the swinging engine and the chassis

the engine didnt kill him but the fitter nearly did
 

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I've got bosses that want my input, but then dismiss it right away. Some bosses think that that just because they went to college they must know better than the people who work with the machines every day.
 
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