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kneebs11

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Hi there, i live in a residential are, and i recently bought a high flow muffler for my go kart (8hp) the muffler gives the kart much more power and top end (compared to my old muffler). But my main problem is that it's way to loud for where i live. Any suggestions on what i could do to keep the power, but not have it so loud??
 

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Often times if you can find a muffler for a larger generator, specifically most are designed to allow flow for power yet dampen the sound for commercial or residential use. Not all mufflers for generators are more quite but many do accomplish that task.
 

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Find a cross-section of any popular high-performance car muffler, and basically copy it in a smaller scale.

 

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i was wondering if i could just use the muffler in the picture above (the one i currently use) but make my self a header then screw that muffler onto the end of the header would that work?





Kinda like this
 

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this is something I would like to know more about also. would it be possable to use a small muffler from a small car, or one of those mufflers off of a gas golf cart.
 

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this is something I would like to know more about also. would it be possable to use a small muffler from a small car, or one of those mufflers off of a gas golf cart.

I don't think a muffler from a car would restrict flow for a smaller motor, but I also don't think it would make it any quieter either.
 

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There is some really effective silencing technology used in the aviation industry. For example, if you have a flat plate of metal it reflects sound like crazy. But if you drill a lot of holes 1/16" or smaller in it, suddenly it's quiet. Standing in front of it and talking is just like talking in front of a velvet curtain. I went into the test cell where they run jet engines after rebuilding them, and all the walls were like that. It was always whisper-quiet in that room. If you look at the front cowling of an engine on a 737, you'll see a lot of those little holes drilled in the air intake. They don't go all the way through, they're just dimples. It eliminates a lot of noise from the front fan.

I always wanted to do something similar in a muffler for a piston engine. Based on what I saw in my aviation days, you probably could get a lot of muffling by drilling a ton of holes in a pipe, maybe 1/16" diameter and no more than 1/4" apart in all directions, and inserting that into a tightly fitting outer pipe.

Another thing you could do is get a loud muffler with a lot of space inside and insert a loose ball of coarse steel wool. In the case of your Briggs straight muffler pictured above, you would put it into the threaded end so it wouldn't blow out the tailpipe. You don't want to pack it in there. You want a lot of space for unrestricted flow. The little spaces and filaments would break up the sound waves.
 

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robbie, I actually fabbed a muffler exactly how you mentioned for my XT250, thing sounds great, extra power, and its not TOO bad on the ears. (Its louder than the stock muffler.)
 

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Don't use steel wool! It can burn under certain conditions; your kart might leave a trail of destruction off-road. In a safe place, try lighting some with a lighter or apply 12v to it; great emergency firestarter.

Mufflers use fiberglass packing for effective damping. You need the right kind of fiberglass for the job, not pink insulation for example. Why reinvent the wheel, get a small cherry bomb or thrush mounted securely to the frame and run a header to it.

On one of my 6.5 Yerfs, I ran a 1" header pipe curving down about 18". I pinched the end closed, drilled a number of ~5mm holes in the last 4" or so, and welded a piece of 2-1/8 automotive exhaust pipe to that, fabricated 2 funky 90 degree cut and weld bends that resulted in 2 "chambers" along the pipe, and terminated it with a Sparky spark arrestor. The result is fairly free flowing, and quieter than stock. It was a quick fab on the last day before a trip.

If you run a small pipe into a big pipe without any further chambers or baffles, it is likely to not be very quiet.

One thing that is very important is, make sure custom exhausts are well supported. Hanging more than just the stock muffler on the two exhaust bolts alone will break them, and/or strip the holes in the engine; you don't want that! :oops:

The kart I made at age 15 was a ~9hp Briggs flatty. I welded up an exhaust that included a full sized car or truck muffler (with perf pipes, chambers, AND fiberglass) which I got from the trash at a Midas muffler shop. This made the exhaust almost whisper-quiet, and revealed the fact that the rest of the engine makes a lot of noise too! If space and weight are no object, this is the quietest way to go.

A flowmaster/magnaflow large baffle muffler won't quiet a small engine down much at all.
 
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