Manco intuder engine size

[lgallagher59]

Hi I am fairly new to go karts been buying fixing and getting bigger. Got myself a manco intuder that I love, it has a new predator 212 and it runs nice. I am wondering how big and engine could I fit with out changing anything?

 

[anickode]

Without changing ANYTHING? Exactly what you have.

A predator 301 would probably fit, but you'd have to change the driver sheave to 1" ID, and you would be pushing the limits of the TAV2, and might have to modify the rear oil port to make it fit.

A 420 might also fit, particularly with a remote mounted fuel tank, but you'd have to upgrade to a 40 series torque converter to handle the power, and a 40 series on a backplate is not an ideal setup. Running an independent jackshaft would be better but would require modification.

If you look for used engines, you might find a Tecumseh or Briggs in the 8-10 hp range with a 3/4" shaft.

And any larger engine may require modification of the engine mounting plate to accommodate a different bolt pattern.

 

[lgallagher59]

Thanks for the response, I guess the real question is how much more power or speed would I get from a 8-10 hp would I notice it?

 

[anickode]

Thanks for the response, I guess the real question is how much more power or speed would I get from a 8-10 hp would I notice it?

Approximately 1.5-3.5 hp more.

Your top speed won't change unless you change the gearing as well.

If you go up to a 40 series without changing gearing, your top speed will drop by 10% because you will lose the .9:1 overdrive of the TAV2

 

[Kartorbust]

Power wise it'll be a big jump. Going from essentially 9ft/lbs of torque to about 18ft/lbs...youll be close to double the power. Acceration will be up, but overall top speed may remain the same or decrease a bit. If you upgrade to a 40 series, you'll lose your 10% overdrive for a direct drive 1:1, so you may lose 3mph, but you gain more power. I'd say that's a fair trade off.

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Approximately 1.5-3.5 hp more.

Your top speed won't change unless you change the gearing as well.

If you go up to a 40 series without changing gearing, your top speed will drop by 10% because you will lose the .9:1 overdrive of the TAV2

You beat me to it.

 

[lgallagher59]

Thanks for the info, I am not looking to break any speed records but I do like more power. I’m going to look for a 9or 10 hp

 

[landuse]

Thanks for the info, I am not looking to break any speed records but I do like more power. I’m going to look for a 9or 10 hp

Just remember that it will NOT be a direct bolt on and go replacement

 

[qtband]

What about doing some mods to the Predator to increase the power on it?