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Again- Never mind what it does with the engine off. The governor is actuated centrifugally. It has to spin. Let's get the linkages correct, the adjustment correct, and fire the engine. If it still needs work, we'll work it.
 

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Thanks guys. I just got the new clutch today, so I will throw it on there and see what happens. I appreciate all the info.
 

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I had a very similar situation, tore the manager a new one & ended up getting a discount every time I went there after that :D

How did your situation end blue? Did you get any satisfaction out of them?

Great advide TS :thumbsup::thumbsup:

i went there to get a hobart handler 125 "mig ready" for $350 didnt have it so i got the next size up for $500. i guess it worked out okay because the regulator kit for the 125 would have been another $150, and it was included in the 140 amp version.
 

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So...... seeing as you guys have practically built my go-kart via internet for me, I now have a new problem. lol. New clutch is smoking like a banshee. Wife got in with me last night, and I told her it probably wouldn't haul both of us, and it didn't... lol. So this morning I pull it out, jump in, and take off. Good to go. Stop, start going again, hear a clicking noise like the chain is slipping, but its not.. Then the clutch starts smoking. So I think maybe I'm too heavy, which is sad, cause I want to play on it. So I put my 8yr old daughter in it, granted, she is scared to push the gas pedal in all the way, which could cause the clutch to not fully engage, but even when I made her push it in, the cart started clicking and wouldn't move til I gave it a shove.... Any ideas?
 

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That hobart 125 at tsc doesnt have the provision for gas hookup anyway. So you ended up getting the right one if you want to weld with gas.


Sounds like the OP glazed the shoes on the clutch. You'll have to dissassemble it and sand the drum and shoes down and spray it all with brakleen and just pray it returns to life. Sounds like you need to regear to closer to a 6:1 or 7:1 ratio
 

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slideways, I am at a 6:1 ratio. My clutch is a 10tooth and the sprocket is a 60 tooth.
 

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I am about 175. I think the tires might be an issue. Just read in another post that the tires should only be about 2" bigger that the rear sprocket. Is this true? If it is, I am in trouble. My rear tires are about 18" tall. my sprocket is only about 10". From what I read, even an 80 tooth sprocket is only 13". I don't have access to different tires for the rear either. Wanting to use this thing around our property, so it needs a little bit of clearance. Not being used on a sidewalk.
 

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That's your issue. 6:1 is a good ballpark ratio for a traditional fun/yard kart. Tires tend to be quite a bit smaller, and with less weight on the machine. 2 adults and big meats are not going to cut it at 6:1.
 

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12/72? no. I have a 10/60 setup. 10 teeth on the clutch and 60 teetch on the sproket. Unless I just don't know how to write it out. But I can count and that's what I counted. lol. I am attaching a picture so you can see the difference.
 

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So should I get a jackshaft to change up the ratio, or up it to a 80th sprocket? I just don't see an 80 tooth being big enough.
 

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Now that you posted the pic, that kart already has the jackshaft plate and tube. Whoever sold it to you yanked the torque convertor setup and "cheapened it" to the clutch style.

12/72 and 10/60 still equals 6:1. 12/72 is more common because most #35 chain clutches have 12 teeth. But yours is a #40 chain.

You should easily be able to grab 2 bearings, a jackshaft and 2 sprockets and gear that thing down
 

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2 bearings, a jackshaft, and 2 sprockets? Okay, I will start doing my research. How much should this cost roughly? I am searching go-kart part websites as we speak. Or type, if you wanna get technical.
 

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How do I know what size to get? That tube for the jackshaft to go in is huge! it's an inch and 3/8ths inside to inside. I see that the jackshaft will be considerably cheaper than the cvt. And easier too. How do I know how many teeth I need on it's sprocket as well?
 

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search apskarting.com. They will be the cheapest. You should get the job done for 50-75 bucks. Compared to $200+ for a torque convertor. You'll need probably a 20t and a 9t sprocket to gear it down to about 8.66 according to my calculation.
 

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The hole is big because it is supposed to have bearings in it. 5/8" bore bearings usually for a 5/8" jackshaft.
 

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So this means I am going to have to relocate the axle sprocket to the other side, correct?....Or do I?
 

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slideaways, you think an 8.66 would get it low enough to cart me and the wife around? Together we weigh about 350. Just getting a feel for what I'm getting into. I don't need super fast top speed. Don't have more than 60 yads on my property before I'm dodging trees anyhow. More concerned with getting up to speed.
 
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