I keep seeing this lately

[readymix]

Is there a drug for this, or is it caused by drug use? How can you possibly look at that and say "Yeah- that'll give me the performance edge while I'm tearing around irresponsibly threatening lives?"


Hella Flush? Is that when you put your offroad lights in the toilet?



Oh, they've murdered these cars, all right...

Don't ask me, man. I haven't the slightest idea why anyone would do what I've seen some of these kids do to their cars. It was mentioned above, it's kids with no money and no know-how trying to make their cars low the wrong way. Cutting springs, absurd camber, grinding off the bumpstops. It is what people that don't want to take the time to learn how suspension works do to their cars to make them look 'cool.'

The worst part about this fad is that the idiots that do this crap go around and ***-pat each other and tell themselves how great it looks. When someone that knows what they are talking about says "that looks dangerous and stupid" they call you a "hater." Yes. I am a hater. I hate being on public interstates and freeways near people with dangerous half-assed suspension setups and camber-worn, stretched tires. I don't want to be there when that stupid 'look-at-me' setup grenades on you and causes you to go careening around traffic in a 2 ton steel unguided missile.

 

[exenos]

Don't ask me, man. I haven't the slightest idea why anyone would do what I've seen some of these kids do to their cars. It was mentioned above, it's kids with no money and no know-how trying to make their cars low the wrong way. Cutting springs, absurd camber, grinding off the bumpstops. It is what people that don't want to take the time to learn how suspension works do to their cars to make them look 'cool.'

The worst part about this fad is that the idiots that do this crap go around and ***-pat each other and tell themselves how great it looks. When someone that knows what they are talking about says "that looks dangerous and stupid" they call you a "hater." Yes. I am a hater. I hate being on public interstates and freeways near people with dangerous half-assed suspension setups and camber-worn, stretched tires. I don't want to be there when that stupid 'look-at-me' setup grenades on you and causes you to go careening around traffic in a 2 ton steel unguided missile.

Cutting your coils is a legit way to lower your car IF it is done right, heated coils on the other hand...
I'm not too sure about cars but I know that with trucks if some one wants to slam it right to the ground without using bags then its almost a guarantee that your going to be using cut drop coils because the drop coils+ drop spindles might not be enough.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Simply cutting your coils ANY amount without correcting the geometry is NOT the right way to do it, and to the very best of my knowledge, there is ONLY ONE exception to this rule- the coil spring/live axle combination on the REAR of a vehicle that is so equipped. In ANY IFS or front end application, simply altering the ride height by shortening or compressing a coil will have an adverse effect on your suspension and steering geometry.

 

[exenos]

That's what I was meaning by "done right". You'd definitely would need a alignment afterwards. Wasn't saying that cutting the coils, popping them back in and leaving it at that was acceptable, just that the act of removing a coil or 2 is a reasonable alternative to drop coils. Not the best solution, but there's really nothing wrong with it.

 

[fowler]

Cutting the stock coil is not an acceptable way of lowering

Firstly u loose the compleat lower ring of the coil that acts as a locator
Also a proper lowering coil is not only shorter but stiffer

When u cut the existing spring it won't lower the car the amount u cut out is simply allows the spring to extend and the car drops a bit
Leaving u with a weak spring so u get a very bouncy ride
That is unless u lowered it too much then u just get to bottom out lots

 

[Doc Sprocket]

In a nutshell... It buggers up the spring rate!

 

[Rustydog2010]

Cutting springs isnt that bad. As long as its not excessive amounts. Also, as long as the shock is shortened as well. This will keep the spring captive when the shock is at full drop. Also an alignment after, to bring the alignment back to factory or close to.

I have two pretty modified, what you guys would call 'ricers'. One is what I use as a drifter. Low as it can go, 18" rims, modified front LCA and knuckles, getting close to 60 degrees of lock. With 270kw in a stripped out S14. 240sx to you guys. Makes for good fun, even tho it looks lick a sack.

 

[exenos]

In a nutshell... It buggers up the spring rate!

I guess I should have been more specific. I was mainly talking about trucks (Kinda got my forums a little mixed up). You can afford to mess with the spring rate a bit on a lowered truck because its a little stiff to begin with, just makes the ride more like a car than a truck.

 

[B man]

Well, I lowered my Tundra, but I did it the correct way, and retained all the factory suspension, and my alignment is dead nuts on factory spec, but I spent the money for the proper kit after months of research.

why lower it? would only seem to hinder the trucks ability to do the job it was built for.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

why lower it? would only seem to hinder the trucks ability to do the job it was built for.

... Because more often than not, people that would do this to a truck don't actually need a truck. You know those guys that drop a minitruck to the ground on a notched frame and airbags? Do you really think they're gonna pick up that refrigerator themselves? Or carry a load of soil home from the garden center? Masonry blocks to build a retaining wall? I think not...

 

[masteryota]

why lower it? would only seem to hinder the trucks ability to do the job it was built for.

Don't judge a book by its cover. The 2nd gen tundra is known for its bouncy rear springs, and leveling it out dampens that. That being said, since I retained all factory suspension components, I also retained the factory payload and towing capacity. Yes, I do still use it for a truck, and haul shingles, plywood, motorcycles, boats and such, but it looks **** sexy doing it now, instead of being 6" higher in the rear.

I guess I am the exception to the rules, with a slammed truck.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Don't judge a book by its cover. The 2nd gen tundra is known for its bouncy rear springs, and leveling it out dampens that. That being said, since I retained all factory suspension components, I also retained the factory payload and towing capacity. Yes, I do still use it for a truck, and haul shingles, plywood, motorcycles, boats and such, but it looks **** sexy doing it now, instead of being 6" higher in the rear.

I guess I am the exception to the rules, with a slammed truck.

By your description, I would call your truck "levelled" as opposed to "lowered" or "slammed". Exception to the rule? You bet.

 

[masteryota]

By your description, I would call your truck "levelled" as opposed to "lowered" or "slammed". Exception to the rule? You bet.

Technically, it is lowered front and rear(2"/4.5").

 

[Doc Sprocket]

I know- but in the world of lifted rigs (and lowering is merely the opposite) such a treatment would be more considered a levelling treatment than anything.

 

[B.M.800]

So if they start cutting me off and speeding around me on the road I stick up their assemble they go up the hill
To avoid rolling back into my bullbat they gotta keep moving forward at idle over the bumps
Scraping and crunching al the way

Needless to say I get a wide berth now

Bwahahaha. That would be so much fun!

 

[Poboy kartman]

IDK guys, but I'm thinking that you are giving these guys more credit for brains than they deserve. I mean most of them don't know how to put their hats on the right direction, where to put their earrings, or how to pull their pants up.I conquered that last challenge when I was 4, and only because mom bought clothes we could "grow into".These guys are'nt gonna grow much. Physically or mentally.What little brains they ever had are being rattled out by 2000 watt stereos.
Man, I'm jealous, ....I think those guys are having too much fun.

 

[gvfc2]

only 2k watt? some of them have 10k+ systems

 

[sideways]

Ok, ready for this answer. Its called being a cheap a$$, the kids like the lowered look, and don't want to spend the $$ for the modified lower control arms that bring the spindles back into proper adjustment ranges.

"Stance" is quite the opposite. It stems from that but instead people actually spend money to increase their negative camber to ridiculous proportions.

Like so.

It's big in Asia and Europe.

It's the modern equivalent of 15 years ago when there were tons of Lancer Coupes getting around with candy/harlequin/flake/brightas paint, ridiculous body kits and shameless chrome rims.

Just a whole bunch of poser mods.

 

[xXPhasemanXx]

That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen done to a car

 

[Poboy kartman]

Yeah, I'm an old man, hard to keep up sometimes.The thing about those super high watt systems is that all that power goes to drive the stupidly oversized bass, which only serves to disturb the residents of the neighborhoods that they cruise through to get drugs.
I have a 35 watt Peavy amp and cranked up halfway, when I hit the strings on that Fender, you'll either leave, cover your ears, or are already deaf.I don't get it.