I completely totaled my goKart trying to make a video for you guys :(

[isuckateverything]

so, I've been having a few issues, and I just found this forum.. figured hey, these guys seem like experts and thought the easiest way to have my problem fixed was to show you what was wrong with the thing.

welllllll.... bad idea.

I'll start off the bad with the issue that caused this entire thing, the throttle springy thing doesn't work on my go-kart for some reason.. it works.. but barely and the throttle itself gets stuck and doesn't have enough *spring*? to go back to the idle position..

I guess you know what happened from here..


The thing fully launched against my brick home, barely missing a newly installed 1,500$ fence my mom put in 2 weeks ago. (what a relief tbh)

never seen this thing pick up speed so fast, (maybe cause im a fat slob lol) but it was faster than a tesla on ludicrous mode.. probably went up to 35mph in 30 feet.

best part is I recorded the entire thing! watch me mess up in real time!


video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O7E5MpRWyk

aftermath pics : https://imgur.com/gallery/9LS8m



now... be honest with me. is there anyway i can fix this/ get someone to fix it in the NYC area?

looks like a welder/grinder/ saw/ and a couple hours of work might get the frame back, maybe hitting the rim with a hammer til straight?

or am I better off just selling this on craigslist and starting from scratch since I have no tools/experience with said tools.

it has been having some other issues as well. although that may just be a fault of mine tbh, here's a video of the issue..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVgBaj8SQgE

pretty much it's not idling right, and when i accelerate it would cut off/ and sometimes even turn off.. thought it was the gas so I filled it, and it's still the same, could it be the tubes from the stock airbox needed to be placed elsewhere?


idk

help pls

 

[B.M.800]

Im sorry I cant help you... BUT... that was hilarious. The crashing and banging offscreen...

 

[bob58o]

The vent on top of the gas tank can be left open. The tube coming from the valve cover on the engine doesn't need to be attached to anything either. I put a filter on the end of it so dirt doesn't get sucked into the engine.

You should add your own return spring. Something more heavy duty than the little one on throttle plate.

A burnt up clutch might take off on its own. What gear ratio were you running?

Did you disconnect the low oil sensor? (Not doing so could cause the random shut offs)


Don't know about fixing the damage, but might be able to help prevent it from happening again.

 

[esfoder]

Tube from valve cover does not go to the gas tank. Your putting crank case pressure (blow by) in the fuel tank. That's my first thought.

 

[Gear_head]

What was damaged after the crash?

 

[isuckateverything]

>The vent on top of the gas tank can be left open. The tube coming from the valve cover on the engine doesn't need to be attached to anything either. I put a filter on the end of it so dirt doesn't get sucked into the engine.

awesome, i'll try and buy a filter soon

>You should add your own return spring. Something more heavy duty than the little one on throttle plate.

yeah that was my thought, any advice on which one specifically? ebay or amazon maybe?

>A burnt up clutch might take off on its own. What gear ratio were you running?

smells like a burnt clutch, how do I check the gear ratio? i purchase this used, so I have no clue.

>Did you disconnect the low oil sensor? (Not doing so could cause the random shut offs)

purchased used, maybe the prior owner did? should I check the oil? how many Ounces does a empty engine need?


>Don't know about fixing the damage, but might be able to help prevent it from happening again.

yeah bummer, hope I can fix it

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check out the imgur link i posted.

 

[anickode]

I don't see anything that can't be fixed in a few hours, and for less than 100 bucks total

 

[OzFab]

As you're new, I won't be too hard on you but, as you deliberately dodged the "cuss sensor", I will:
THIS IS A FAMILY FORUM with members as young as 12; PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING PROFANITY. If you wouldn't say it to your grandmother, DON'T USE IT HERE!

 

[bob58o]

The vent on top of the gas tank can be left open. The tube coming from the valve cover on the engine doesn't need to be attached to anything either. I put a filter on the end of it so dirt doesn't get sucked into the engine.

awesome, i'll try and buy a filter soon

In the pics I put a fuel filter on the gas tank vent. Air needs to enter the tank as the fuel leaves to keep pressure constant, so if you do the same... make sure the flow direction of the fuel filter (the one on the vent) is flowing into the top of the tank. Many fuel filters are uni-directional and will have an arrow pointing to show the direction of the flow. On other engine builds, I left that vent open.

For the valve cover, I used a breather filter. They are cheap online, but like $13 bucks at the Auto Parts Store.

>You should add your own return spring. Something more heavy duty than the little one on throttle plate.

yeah that was my thought, any advice on which one specifically? ebay or amazon maybe?

The local Hardware store (ACE / TRUE VALUE) should have some Compression and Tension Springs. Maybe in the "Hillman" drawers. I drilled a hole in the throttle arm and ran a tension spring to the fan shroud on the blower housing (On one engine I just wrapped the end of the spring around one of the air openings on the recoil. On another, I used one of the bolts for the recoil to hold the spring. It should snap shut, quickly and completely, when you let go. There are lots of places to put the spring, just make sure it does its job.

>A burnt up clutch might take off on its own. What gear ratio were you running?

smells like a burnt clutch, how do I check the gear ratio? i purchase this used, so I have no clue.

You have to count the teeth on the sprockets. How many teeth on the clutch? How many teeth on the Rear? And how tall are the tires? The diameter of the rubber, from ground to top? Improper gear ratio may cause premature clutch failure.

>Did you disconnect the low oil sensor? (Not doing so could cause the random shut offs)

purchased used, maybe the prior owner did? should I check the oil? how many Ounces does a empty engine need?

Show us a picture of the side of the engine with the ON/OFF switch. There should be a little gold? box with wires coming out of it. If there is a wire that runs inside a "bolt" that leads into the crankcase, then I'd just disconnect it there. Without taking the sidecover off, I cant say if the actual sensor is still in the block. BUT disconnecting that wire will make the sensor non-functional. You could use the remaining wire coming out of the gold box to hook up a remote kill switch.

I try to use ~16oz of oil. 14oz - 16oz is about right.

BUT even with the correct amount of oil, the low oil sensor could kill the engine. When you start, stop, turn,.... The oil gets sloshed around. The sensor just sees that there isn't enough oil in that location at that time. It doesn't care that rest of the oil is elsewhere in the block. This doesn't happen when Industrial Utility Engines are used for Industrial Utility purposes. It DOES happen when these engines are bolted to vehicles.

 

[itsid]

Well, the good news is..
ALL parts of the Drifter kart are available as spares, the front beam is a bolt on and can be replaced easily (costs just a few bucks)
http://www.funbikes.co.uk/Drift_Go_Kart_196cc_Front_Frame(2628).aspx
Yes uk I'm afraid.. it's for the Kazuma Maxx which is just slightly different than the one you have,
but it's still the "same chinese 200cc drifter kart" basically and will fit.

an new rim and you'd be good.

Initial issue.. as the boys above have said
And get a beefier return spring for the throttle
(one on each end is a must! the actual butterfly as well as the throttle lever)

'sid

 

[anickode]

Are you relying on the engine's throttle return to pull the entire gas pedal back up too?

You should have a spring on the pedal to fight the weight of the pedal and the friction of the pivot, then one on the throttle arm, beefier than the factory one to pull the cable back, and then a very light one on the throttle plate to close the throttle in the event your linkage comes apart, so you won't be stuck at WOT and fumbling for the kill switch. That last bit is especially important if you haven't wired a remote kill switch where it's easily accessible from the driving position.

And also make sure you've loosened the lock nut on the throttle arm pivot.

 

[itsid]

...
And get a beefier return spring for the throttle
(one on each end is a must! the actual butterfly as well as the throttle lever)

'sid

Are you relying on the engine's throttle return to pull the entire gas pedal back up too?

You should have a spring on the pedal to fight the weight of the pedal

*COUGH*

Anyways.. again: NO PEDAL it's a throttle lever on the steering wheel (if stock)
but yes, as said.. it should have a return spring as well

talking of which, make sure the cable itself isn't pinched somewhere (swingarm is a good place to pinch a cable)

'sid

 

[Functional Artist]

Didn't Mr. Spindles

...awhile back

...have the same issue

...& pretty much, the same out come?

 

[isuckateverything]

sorry about that, should've known not to do that. sorry!

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thanks all for the help! i'll buy the parts/springs/ and try to modify it soon.

 

[courts94s]

You just need to cut off the front end, then weld on a new front end. Simple!


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[Denny]

Did you loosen the nut on the throttle arm?


Denny

 

[itsid]

You just need to cut off the front end, then weld on a new front end. Simple!


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why would he cut and weld when he can just un- and rebolt the part as intended by the manufacturer?

Clarification pic (of the kart in question btw.. linked above)


'sid

 

[Functional Artist]

What are the triangle plates (gussets) behind the axle for, if they are not attached to the frame?

Just to "look" strong/braced?

Kinda kuhl concept, its just bolted to the end of the frame with threaded inserts?

 

[itsid]

the triangles are there in case the frame is too narrow for you to rest your feet on the main frame (it IS narrow!) so Kazuma (IRRC Kazuma was it) added those triangles
(lower end for the heel, upper end for your toes )

And no, AFAIK it's studs on the frame and just Locknuts to hold the frontend not the other way round (although that would make more sense to me tbh)

at least it's on the older version

'sid

PS triangles are on 2014 and newer models of the Kazuma Drift II according to the interwebbs

 

[Panhead5496]

LOL I watched that crash part about 10 times...hilarious

Sorry to see that it crashed though