how expensive would it be to switch to live axle?

[87srvsnow]

i was thinking, how expensive would it be to switch to live axle? the set up i have now is a *****, since there must be a spacer from the sprocket to the hub, it makes it difficult to get everything lined up, and now i continue to break bearing after bearing.
i have a friend that would gladly help out, and he has welders and **** like that so that shouldn't be a problem.

here is what i have so far:


i don't know what size my axle is but 1 in. diameter seems to be the most common, on northern tool a 44 in. 1 in diameter axle cost $60
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_25237_25237

i found a a bearing kit fora 1 in axle on bmi. but i remember reading on a thread that someone had only two bearing spots and they bent the axle. should i look for a third bearing?
8th one down
http://www.bmikarts.com/shop/?cart=1833881&cat=260&

i was looking at sprocket hubs on bmi also. i found a good looking one for $16. 6th one down
http://www.bmikarts.com/shop/?cart=1833881&cat=172&

could some one fill me in on which one of these is a brake hub.
http://www.bmikarts.com/shop/?cart=1833881&cat=172&

brake rotor ($28, 8th from bottom)
brake caliber ($20, 5th down)
http://www.bmikarts.com/shop/?cart=1833881&cat=174&

wheel hub $19
1st on page
http://www.bmikarts.com/shop/?cart=1833881&cat=255&



i think i covered everything. if i missed anything please let me know. this comes out to $150 clean, without the brake hub, does this sound like a number that sounds what it should be near?

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Your can take $40 off that, bmi ha 1" axle for around $20. With 1" axle you should be fine with two bearings, the one i think your talking about was 3/4".

 

[87srvsnow]

oh ok thanks

did i miss anything in my list?

 

[Rotore]

noope

 

[87srvsnow]

i was looking at a bearing kit that was $53 dollars, because it came with a brake set up also. but it was band brake. and i know from reading a lot of posts that disc is 1000 times better than band so i thought if i was going to spend the money i might as well spend it on good stuff. i still don't know where i am going to make that money though haha.

 

[Rotore]

disc brake setup: 25
bmi 1" live axle: 20
pillow blocks: 20
hubs: 38

so your only down $103

 

[t0x1k]

but it was band brake. and i know from reading a lot of posts that disc is 1000 times better than band so

Idk why people dis band brakes. I can lock up my yerfdog and it has like a 4" band brake.

 

[87srvsnow]

wait,why is disk brake setup $25? $20 for the caliber and $25 for the rotar. and what about brake hub.

the axle will be $25 dollars because i am going to get either 40 in or 45 in. which one would be better? i think the wider would look better but what would be mechanically better?

also what about sprocket hub?

 

[87srvsnow]

ok i definitely missed something before.

$20---pillow blocks
$25---axle
$38---hubs
$48---brake set up [caliber and rotar, not brake hub]
$15---sprocket hub
$15---brake hub

TOTAL=$161

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Instead of paying 28 for the rotor+15 for the hub (43), try one of these.

Ask the seller if there 1" bore before bidding though! they should be but just make sure.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998...nowmobileQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_1159wt_975

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pola...owmobileQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_1780wt_1002

I have the exact same rotor as the second one, its very solid and 1" bore but the first one i linked looks like it would dissipate heat better, and is cheaper.

 

[87srvsnow]

oh thank you very much. quick question though, how do the hubs not slide up and down on the axle? also, if it is no trouble could anyone take a picture of there live axle just so i can get a close look at one. ive never actually even seen one before. haha

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Most have set screws, but if not you need locking collars like these

http://www.bmikarts.com/shop/?cart=1834003&match_criteria=all&rec=&keywords=400110K&

 

[87srvsnow]

ok thanks. i didn't think about using eBay. i found this caliper, would it work on that arctic cat rotor?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BRAKE-CALIPER-CABLE-GO-KART-GOCART-MINI-BIKE-MINIBIKE_W0QQitemZ400063300378QQcmdZViewItemQQptZOther_Vehicle_Parts?hash=item5d25a1831a&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12|39%3A1|72%3A1171

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Not sure, you would have to ask the seller of the rotor how thick it is. My workshop is all packed up so i cant measure how thick a sled rotor is, but im assuming its around 3/16. Looks kind of cheap to me though.

 

[87srvsnow]

Not sure, you would have to ask the seller of the rotor how thick it is. My workshop is all packed up so i cant measure how thick a sled rotor is, but im assuming its around 3/16. Looks kind of cheap to me though.

ya you probably right. but i wont be able to afford to much stuff for awhile so i have time to look stuff up. thanks for all the help.

 

[Rotore]

wait,why is disk brake setup $25? $20 for the caliber and $25 for the rotar. and what about brake hub.

the axle will be $25 dollars because i am going to get either 40 in or 45 in. which one would be better? i think the wider would look better but what would be mechanically better?

also what about sprocket hub?

because instead of buying all the components for a disc brake setup seperately buy them in a bundle they do sell kits for $25-30 you just have to look around

 

[87srvsnow]

is it worth it though to get live axle?

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Im pretty happy with my live axle, but with a cent clutch and small engine you probably wont notice the difference besides better stopping power, and on slipped surfaces you would get better traction.

 

[Rotore]

yea especially if u have a torquey engine u can drift