How do you say that in Swedish?

[itsid]

yes please... I come to pick you up at the airport.. just give me a call

'sid

 

[Poboy kartman]

I've never seen you be so wrong since I joined this forum. ... so I'm really thinking you are confused on exactly what I'm talking about. .......

NOOOOOO!!!!......As I said. ...they are completely different plants.....the fact they are both plants is probably the only thing they have in common. .......

Jerusalem artichokes are (as I mentioned)....a member of the sunflower. ... (or daisy) family. ... (Compositae)....'Helianthus tuberosus'......of which the common sunflower shares.....'Helianthus annus'...

While artichokes are a member of the thistle family... (Cynara)....with the artichoke being 'Cynara cardunculus'....... (pretty easy to figure out how 'Cardoon' got that common name. ......)

 

[itsid]

I've never seen you be so wrong since I joined this forum. ... so I'm really thinking you are confused on exactly what I'm talking about. .......

NOOOOOO!!!!......As I said. ...they are completely different plants.....the fact they are both plants is probably the only thing they have in common. .......

Jerusalem artichokes are (as I mentioned)....a member of the sunflower. ... (or daisy) family. ... (Compositae)....'Helianthus tuberosus'......of which the common sunflower shares.....'Helianthus annus'...

While artichokes are a member of the thistle family... (Cynara)....with the artichoke being 'Cynara cardunculus'....... (pretty easy to figure out how 'Cardoon' got that common name. ......)

I am really sorry Doug.. I really am...

I just rechecked.. yes; different genus (cynara vs helianthus) but they are both in the same family I'm afraid ... both are Asteraceae, just as I said

and as far as the plant goes.. not the same genus, but still the same family (Asteraceae) IIRC..

Jerusalem artichoke:
Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Eudicots
(unranked): Asterids
Order: Asterales
Family: Asteraceae
Tribe: Heliantheae
Genus: Helianthus

Artichoke:
Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Eudicots
(unranked): Asterids
Order: Asterales
Family: Asteraceae
Tribe: Cynareae
Genus: Cynara

what should I say Doug...

'sid

 

[Poboy kartman]

I am really sorry Doug.. I really am...

I just rechecked.. yes; different genus (cynara vs helianthus) but they are both in the same family I'm afraid ... both are Asteraceae, just as I said



Jerusalem artichoke:
Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Eudicots
(unranked): Asterids
Order: Asterales
Family: Asteraceae
Tribe: Heliantheae
Genus: Helianthus

Artichoke:
Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Eudicots
(unranked): Asterids
Order: Asterales
Family: Asteraceae
Tribe: Cynareae
Genus: Cynara

what should I say Doug...

'sid

What everybody else says......"SHUT UP DUMMY!!!!!!"

 

[landuse]

Lol

 

[OzFab]

I don't know why anyone would get upset. ....the whole reason I started this thread was so we could enlighten each other on our differences. .....

Yeah, that's what I thought...

"Official" British form of English. ....has most of it's roots in Greek, Latin, French and more. ......but often....while the root of the word is traceable. ...the end product is so far away from the original that it takes a scholar to recognize it. ......

Completely true, English is the bastard child of every other language in the world (including Arabic, Japanese & even Chinese) & evolves every day...

I don't read books as such but, a couple of years ago, I came across a book I had to have & proceeded to read it from cover to cover: The Dictionary of Word Origins. A fascinating read...

I know what you're all thinking, "you read a dictionary?" Well, yes & no; this dictionary didn't just give me the definitions of some words, it also gave me the history & origins of said words (AKA Etymology)...

As a result, my spelling has improved (not that it was bad before) & I now have a better understanding of how the language works...

Fun Fact: Even the word "English" is a bastardised word; it was originally "Angleish", the language of the ancient Angles, a Germanic people who settled in England after the roman empire was forced out but, ancient Anglish is nothing like the English of today; over the course of 1600 years, it has gone through at least 4 major transformations...

 

[Poboy kartman]

Yeah, that's what I thought...



Completely true, English is the bastard child of every other language in the world (including Arabic, Japanese & even Chinese) & evolves every day...

I don't read books as such but, a couple of years ago, I came across a book I had to have & proceeded to read it from cover to cover: The Dictionary of Word Origins. A fascinating read...

I know what you're all thinking, "you read a dictionary?" Well, yes & no; this dictionary didn't just give me the definitions of some words, it also gave me the history & origins of said words (AKA Etymology)...

As a result, my spelling has improved (not that it was bad before) & I now have a better understanding of how the language works...

Fun Fact: Even the word "English" is a bastardised word; it was originally "Angleish", the language of the ancient Angles, a Germanic people who settled in England after the roman empire was forced out but, ancient Anglish is nothing like the English of today; over the course of 1600 years, it has gone through at least 4 major transformations...

Yes. ....I totally get it.....as surely as a lot don't. ....I will have to check out that book.....and I have one for you......'The Irony of Democracy'......... (an uncommon Introduction to American Politics. ...Fifth Edition. .. by Thomas R. Dye and L.Harmon Zeigler.......A fascinating read and hard to dispute. ..

EDIT:....So basically.....what the book says is that the freedoms that 90% of Americans enjoy today....werr accidental byproducts of a Constitution written to protect the "haves" of the day.....and was written to address the monarchs of England. ...."that all men are created equal"....was not meant to cover ALL men.....certainly not their slaves....but as a thumbs up yours......to England and it's hierarchy system. ...but in the end...created a monster they could neither foresee ....nor stop. .........

 

[OzFab]

......but often....while the root of the word is traceable. ...the end product is so far away from the original that it takes a scholar to recognize it. ......

Case in point...