HF Clone mounting bolts?

[lude]

make a bracket off the screw numberd 2 in my picture. you can take a peice of flat stock bend it at a angle and drill one hole big enough for the screw and on the other side a hole slightly biger then the cable but smaller then the outside of the liner. then put it threw the hole i numberd 1. get a small peice of tube like very small then double over the cable and clamp it. should work just fine, i did the same way with my old honda 5.5 when i was young. worked very well.

 

[Sail8870]

get a conduit clip to hold the conduit and a wire swivel stop to hold the wire from going through the hole on the throttle

 

[nerfo]

This is how I hooked mine up. This way, you only need the throttle cable to move about 1/2 or 3/4 of an inch to go from idle to wide open throttle... at the end end of the throttle lever where you have your cable mounted, you'd need almost 3 full inches to go from idle to wide open. Also, you can get all your odds and ends thorttle linkage parts here

http://www.mfgsupply.com/GoMiniControlsFittings.html

The part you want to act like a ball stud or barrell at the end of the cable would be either a wire swivel or a wire stop (cable stop.)

I hope this helps and you're able to get the cable hooked to the engine in a way that works nicely for you!

 

[nerfo]

Btw... I have a WAY BETTER return spring on there now!

 

[parker88]

Nerfo...you nailed it. It takes to much too move the throttle lever when its mounted like ive got it...thanx man

 

[nerfo]

No problem... that's why these forums are here! By the way, are you using steel brake line as a conduit for the throttle cable? And if you are, does it work smoothly? I've often thought of doing that, but was afraid to try because I didn't know how well it would work. I think it's a cool idea!

 

[parker88]

Yeah it seems pretty smooth...smooth enough for the cable to slide through pretty good. I set it up how i did cause some other guy on here hooked it up like that and said it worked good...but idk

 

[parker88]

This is how I hooked mine up. This way, you only need the throttle cable to move about 1/2 or 3/4 of an inch to go from idle to wide open throttle... at the end end of the throttle lever where you have your cable mounted, you'd need almost 3 full inches to go from idle to wide open. Also, you can get all your odds and ends thorttle linkage parts here

http://www.mfgsupply.com/GoMiniControlsFittings.html

The part you want to act like a ball stud or barrell at the end of the cable would be either a wire swivel or a wire stop (cable stop.)

I hope this helps and you're able to get the cable hooked to the engine in a way that works nicely for you!

is there something missing on your wire stop? How do thoughs things work...do they screw in from the bottom?

 

[nerfo]

Yeah, I actually popped the whole throttle lever mechanism off the engine and put the screw in from the bottom. So, the screw holds the cable, AND acts as a swivel. I'm not sure how long the screw will hold up, but until it breaks, it seems to work pretty good!

 

[parker88]

Yeah, I actually popped the whole throttle lever mechanism off the engine and put the screw in from the bottom. So, the screw holds the cable, AND acts as a swivel. I'm not sure how long the screw will hold up, but until it breaks, it seems to work pretty good!

could the screw be put in from the top and still hold the cable?

 

[nerfo]

Yes, it could. But the part of the screw that sticks out of the cable stop goes through the throttle lever and pulls the lever when the cable gets pulled. Basically, I am using the wire stop in a manner OTHER than intended. It's kind of a trial and error deal to find what works for you. There is no one way to hook up a throttle cable, just make sure it works and is dependable! You don't want the throttle to stick wide open, and you don't want it breaking every other time you mash the gas.

 

[parker88]

oh ok i gotcha...thanx man youve been a big help

 

[parker88]

Well in the end I dont think the brakeline is going to work as conduit. Now im thinking i should just get a throttle cable that will work for my kart. The cable that was on it just isnt long enough for the clone. I could see where it would work on a briggs with the throttle mounting plate down on the bottom but not on the clone. The only problem i see with getting a throttle cable is am i going to be able to find one thats long enough cause theres no throttle rod on this kart. The pedal end of cable just hooks to a little tab on the frame thats about 3 inches from the pedal...so will i be able to find a long enough throttle cable or what would be another allternative to an actuall thottle cable?

 

[anderkart]

3/16" Nylon brake line makes awesome throttle cable housing.
Here's some for sale: http://www.cometkartsales.com/store/brakes/brakline.htm but you could probably just buy this stuff at some auto parts stores.

I used it on my kart shown here:

The fittings I used for retaining the cable housing ends would also be available at auto parts stores and you'd just need 1/8" NPT automotive Hydraulic brake, type fittings with a 3/16" Ferrel for each end. (just don't over tighten the outer nut and crush the line)

I buy my (1/16" diameter) stainless steel inner cable in 7ft. lengths from a local race kart shop here but I'd imagine you could buy this from many other sources including some better hardware stores. You may find they would also stock 3/16" Nylon water line (for your housing) and all the other necessary fittings.

Bicycle shift/brake cables and housings might be another option to consider.

 

[parker88]

ander...can you bend it?

 

[anderkart]

Yeah it bends fine, mine makes a complete 180 around the engine and then a sharp 45 at the frame rail:

 

[solomon]

ander, how much HP is that kart pumping out?

 

[anderkart]

These Star engines are supposed to have about 20hp with stock parts. Mine seems to of had several mods done so it could be higher. The dude I bought it from couldn't tell me much about it. He'd just gotten it from a kart racing, room-mate in exchange for several months back rent owed.