Help with clutch removal needed

[Choco]

Hi guys I have an 83 honda odyssey with original salsbury clutch but when trying to remove it I'm not able to keep the clutch from spinning which means I can't get the bolt that I'm using as a puller (with grease hydraulic method) tight enough to pop the clutch off. Does anyone know of a method of holding the clutch with something or any other tips or tricks. All good ideas are useful.

 

[Lucky7]

If you dont get an answer from one of our expert members try you tube or another forum.

 

[Choco]

If you dont get an answer from one of our expert members try you tube or another forum.

Yeah I tried looking on YouTube but can't seem to find anything that helps but I'm yet to try another forum.
Cheers

 

[landuse]

All you have to do is take the spark plug out, turn the engine until the piston is near the bottom, and then start stuffing a rope down the hole. Try not use nylon rope. Stuff as much as you can in. When you then try undo the nut, the piston will not be able to reach the top and the engine will stop rotating. You can then undo the nut. Once it is off, turn the shaft the other way to get the piston to move down a bit. You can then pull the rope out. Tada!!

 

[Choco]

That's awesome thank you landuse. I vaguely remember seeing that on one of your other posts but wasn't quite sure of the type of rope to use, I remember there was one to avoid but I wasn't sure which one.
Thanks again.

 

[landuse]

That's awesome thank you landuse. I vaguely remember seeing that on one of your other posts but wasn't quite sure of the type of rope to use, I remember there was one to avoid but I wasn't sure which one.
Thanks again.

The reason why you don't use nylon, is that when you are getting the bolt off, the piston pushing on the nylon rope can "smear/tear" the rope and leave pieces behind. You don't want pieces of plastic in your engine

The first pic is what I would definitely not use, the second is also nylon, but should be OK I think. The first pic the rope is nearly all plastic

 

[ML-TOYS]

Wow this is something i never heard of or thought about doing.
Great new way for me.

All you have to do is take the spark plug out, turn the engine until the piston is near the bottom, and then start stuffing a rope down the hole. Try not use nylon rope. Stuff as much as you can in. When you then try undo the nut, the piston will not be able to reach the top and the engine will stop rotating. You can then undo the nut. Once it is off, turn the shaft the other way to get the piston to move down a bit. You can then pull the rope out. Tada!!

 

[landuse]

Wow this is something i never heard of or thought about doing.
Great new way for me.

You're welcome

 

[itsid]

Easy thing to veryfy if the rope should be used or not:

take your lighter and hold the end of the rope over the flame, if it melts, don't use it.

Paracord, just like climbing/sailing cord (right picture in Paul's post) does melt too,
but is designed to not fray when pulled over a sharp edge easily.
(which is the important part.. it must not shave off on the spark plug threads)

It's expensive though, maybe more expensive than a proper piston lock (which is around 7-10 bucks) since you barely ever can buy just a foot or two

So if you do not have that handy and you don't have any organic rope either, you could also buy the proper tool for the job

'sid

 

[Lucky7]

You're welcome

Oh that is what you meant. I though the clutch was literally stuck to the shaft. BTW I use that trick all the time for getting clutches and flywheels off. Very useful and glad you shared it landuse/

 

[Desertduler]

This is a very old trick, just make sure if you do this with a two stroke that you do not take the piston all the way down to bottom dead center because the transfer and exhaust ports will be exposed and the rope can enter any open port and it can be sheared off as the piston is moved towards top dead center. Two strokes don't like rope stuck in a transfer port and or in the crankcase.
The engine on the Honda odyssey is a two stroke.

 

[Denny]

My favorite trick is to take an old serpentine belt or a v belt for that matter and wrap it around the clutch until both sides meet than use a flat stick as a handle and lay it against the belt and use it as a make shift strap wrench. works good in a pinch.

Denny

 

[Choco]

Job done, the clutch is off thank you all for your helpful hint and ideas the hemp rope did the trick (thanks again landuse) so that the bolt that I bought could push the grease acting as a hydraulic to lift the clutch off the shaft and I'm pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong) that this method would cause less stress and damage to the shaft and clutch threads.
On another note I would have been absolutely stuffed without this forum when it comes to the odyssey so cheers everyone.

 

[Lucky7]

This is a very old trick, just make sure if you do this with a two stroke that you do not take the piston all the way down to bottom dead center because the transfer and exhaust ports will be exposed and the rope can enter any open port and it can be sheared off as the piston is moved towards top dead center. Two strokes don't like rope stuck in a transfer port and or in the crankcase.
The engine on the Honda odyssey is a two stroke.

Yes I did that before. Back when I knew nothing about 2 stroke engine I did that. Little pieces got stuck in the head. Nothing major. Ended up taking the head off anyway. Learned my lesson.