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Okay here goes. So I had my kart out at home a couple weeks ago and it was running great. I decided to bring it over to a buddy's place that day so i put it in my trailer and drove over there.
After getting there I went to start the kart up and it started for about two seconds and died it hasn't started since.

I just cleaned my carb a couple weeks before all of this so I figured it would be fine. And after trying and trying it didn't look like my plug was getting much fuel so I decided to pull the carb apart. It had some sand in bottom bowl which I thought was odd but went ahead and cleaned it all out. Put it all back together and still no start. Not even a cough with starter fluid or cap of gas

I've tried -
Cap full of gas
Two different almost new plugs(both have lots of spark off the block)
Starter fluid any where and everywhere
Muffler seems to be clear

The engine is 2 stroke 125cc air cooled with low hours and electric start

It has not even tried to start not a puff or cough or bang or a crack. Nothing


Any help would be greatly appreciated
 

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Please avoid starting ether in a 2 cycle...capable of blowing all seals.
If you have spark with raw gas in cylinder it should fire...unless flooded. Half a teaspoon will be fine.
Verify that timing is correct. Possible sheared key.
Just because a plug sparks out in the open does not mean it is firing while under pressure or at the right/wrong time.
Reeds are not the issue.
 

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So how would I find out if its sparking in the engine
Ps.( Pulled exhaust off. Full of oil) checked piston seemed to be in decent shape just a little scoring
 

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OK-This is purely speculative-If it were here we would probably have it running in no time, but from here it's a best guess.
I think you may have a fuel problem possibly coupled with a fouled plug.I can tell you one thing, sand in the fuel bowl is never a good thing.
I can't quite figure out why a shot of fuel won't fire it off. A sheared pin would do that, but how does it get sheared on a trailer? I just think a bunch of crap settled into the wrong place and to start with, I would pull the plug and give it a small shot of gas, put it back pull the cord and see.
Also, I may have missed it, but did you check for spark?
 

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image.jpgI did try adding feul direct threw spark plug hole and it dident even try and ignite
 

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I just had this exact problem with my lawnmower. The plug gave me spark, but it was obviously too weak. After changing it for a new plug it started first pull. Check the basics first
 

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I just had this exact problem with my lawnmower. The plug gave me spark, but it was obviously too weak. After changing it for a new plug it started first pull. Check the basics first

I have two Almost new plugs and a third older one i have tried then all but ill get another one I guess
 

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Is it a shifter kart?
The oil cap may be for the gearbox oil

Make sure it is at the correct level

If there was sand in the bowl then it's likely some smaller material has worked it's way right into the carb workings

Check the flywheel key isn't sheared (as russ said)
U may have to remove the retaining nut to see if it has spun
If not remove the flywheel
 

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Is the engine flooded? Try to start the engine with the rear axle off the ground and hold the throttle wide open and crank the engine over and if is starts let the engine clear out but hold the throttle open until the engine revs up the sand in the carb more than likely kept the float needle from shutting the fuel supply off to the carb and the engines crankcase is saturated with fuel do not add anymore fuel to the engine and do not choke it crank it over with the throttle wide open.
 

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Is it a shifter kart?
The oil cap may be for the gearbox oil

Make sure it is at the correct level

If there was sand in the bowl then it's likely some smaller material has worked it's way right into the carb workings

Check the flywheel key isn't sheared (as russ said)
U may have to remove the retaining nut to see if it has spun
If not remove the flywheel

It is not a shifter and there is no drain plug or way to measure level because I don't no what level it is spossed to be
 

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Is the engine flooded? Try to start the engine with the rear axle off the ground and hold the throttle wide open and crank the engine over and if is starts let the engine clear out but hold the throttle open until the engine revs up the sand in the carb more than likely kept the float needle from shutting the fuel supply off to the carb and the engines crankcase is saturated with fuel do not add anymore fuel to the engine and do not choke it crank it over with the throttle wide open.

I don't think it's flooded but ill double check. If it was wouldent my plug be full of feul. I get little to none when I pull the plug it seems dry
 

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I don't think it's flooded but ill double check. If it was wouldent my plug be full of feul. I get little to none when I pull the plug it seems dry

Yes, you are correct I should have read that in your first post that the plug was dry.
Have you made sure their is no water in the fuel or has entered the engine somehow?
I would pull the plug out and make sure the ignition is grounded out and turn the engine over and see if excessive fuel or water mixed fuel comes out of the plug hole.
 

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Also do you have compression? Has sand entered the carburetor through the air filter or the fuel system? and wiped the cylinder and piston rings out? Check to see that would be the worst case scenario.
 
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