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[irelandbiker]

Einhell CEN 151/2 Electric Welding Machine
this is what it says
* Continuous adjustable welding current
* Thermal cut-out with control lamp
* Good ignition and welding characteristics
* Thermal switch
* Complete with welding mask and wire brush with hammer
* Welding thickness 1.5-3mm
* Cover made from steel plate
* Price per item

It was about 49 EUROS I know cheap and probably crap since its lidl

40-100amp power, 3 year warranty and ideal as a first welder

Includes Mask, hammer & wire brush and earthing clamp.

I am a complete newb to welding I have a kart but no welding was done now Im planning to make a mini bike
Some quick answers on what wires to use and how to work basically would be much appreciated thanks
(this aint spam)

 

[Kenny_McCormic]

7014 is a good electrode, just go with smaller rods.

 

[irelandbiker]

where do i buy a 7014 electrde?

 

[Kenny_McCormic]

Where you buy welding stuff. The electrode is the consumable rod, you buy em by the box.

 

[modelengineer]

I would buy 6013, all purpose rod. That way you don't need to keep them completely sealed and heat them, to drive off moisture, when you need to use them.

 

[irelandbiker]

I cant find 6013 electrodes on ebay do would this do

instead
MIG WELDING WIRE
FLUXCORED GASLESS
0.9MM DIAMETER

 

[stephenm2682]

yeah if you had a fluxcore welder

 

[lemegacool]

this would be percfect for you!



http://cgi.ebay.ca/TECHNIWELD-3-32-DIAMETER-50-LBS-WELDING-ROD-E6013_W0QQitemZ380124299312QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item380124299312&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

 

[fluxcored]

I cant find 6013 electrodes on ebay do would this do

instead
MIG WELDING WIRE
FLUXCORED GASLESS
0.9MM DIAMETER

That spool is for a MIG welder, you've got an arc welder, you need rods. Einhell is on sale here as well and I stay as far away from them as possible - admittedly I have never used their products and you may find that I'm just biased and that your machine weld like a Lincoln on steroids.

Do'nt be in a rush to put rod to metal - research the subject properly. Their is a lot of material on the web that'll help you to get started.

And always remember, safety is very important. Safety equipment is really cheap compared to the price of other welding consumables so you've got no reason to skimp.

 

[irelandbiker]

Yes i have all the safety equipment
Ok thanks so e6013 are the best?
I cant find them in Ireland do would these general purpose ones do?
http://cgi.ebay.ie/WELDING-ELECTRODE-ROD-5-KG-MILD-2-5-MM-NO-2-0-FREEPOST_W0QQitemZ190296131302QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item190296131302&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

 

[lemegacool]

Yes i have all the safety equipment
Ok thanks so e6013 are the best?
I cant find them in Ireland do would these general purpose ones do?
http://cgi.ebay.ie/WELDING-ELECTRODE-ROD-5-KG-MILD-2-5-MM-NO-2-0-FREEPOST_W0QQitemZ190296131302QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item190296131302&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

i guess so... cant identify them but it says general purpose mild stell...

 

[fluxcored]

Yes i have all the safety equipment
Ok thanks so e6013 are the best?
I cant find them in Ireland do would these general purpose ones do?
http://cgi.ebay.ie/WELDING-ELECTRODE-ROD-5-KG-MILD-2-5-MM-NO-2-0-FREEPOST_W0QQitemZ190296131302QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item190296131302&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

Jeez mate, you're not living in Sudan. Every hardware shop I know of sell 6013 around here and we're not exactly first world, you know.

If I were you I'd stay away from those rods. There's no identifiable markings and no description on the box. The flux is probably pulped newspaper and the rod recycled bicycle frame steel.

Highly likely that it'll weld like and put you off welding forever.

BOC must have some outlets near you. Take the time and make the effort to visit them and speak to an expert.

If you want to get the best out of your machine and make the experience less painful a good quality rod is essential. I've got some quality 6013 that is just a pleasure to weld with - you tap it against the steel and the arc starts and you drag it, no fighting to maintain a gap. But that's just because of the rod and flux properties. Other 6013 I have will absolutely drive you crazy, since you're fighting to start and keep the arc alive all the way.

Pay a bit more for a high quality 6013 while you learning. When you've build your confidence then look at lower quality, lower cost rods.

Whatever you do I wish you luck.

Good tip - join mig-welding.co.uk, they'll be able to advise you to where in your area you'll be able to get some good rods.

Cheers

 

[irelandbiker]

I now have good 6013 rods and he welders working fine, Im having some trouble do geting decent welds yet is there a certain temp that the 6013 rods want

 

[lemegacool]

I now have good 6013 rods and he welders working fine, Im having some trouble do geting decent welds yet is there a certain temp that the 6013 rods want

3/32" is about 70-80

 

[fluxcored]

I now have good 6013 rods and he welders working fine, Im having some trouble do geting decent welds yet is there a certain temp that the 6013 rods want

Do'nt worry - I've been welding for years and still struggle to get decent welds.

Good Luck!

 

[irelandbiker]

Ok thanks a million im gonna weld a toolbox onto my kart because it keeps breaking down and then im making a minibike iv a 47cc engine ready probly be slow but tis me first fully diy project so twil probably blow up

 

[irelandbiker]

What welding temperature should i use for welding the outside of a clutch to something, im not sure what type of metal tis but tis a standard max torque clutch?

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

You will have to re harden the steel after welding, and its generally a bad idea to weld on a clutch since heating it up could make it brittle. Why would you want to weld something onto the clutch bell?

 

[irelandbiker]

im puting it on a lil engine to use as a friction yoke against the wheel of a bicycle