Hello from Carlsbad, CA

[ActionHeroJes]

Hello everyone

I recently bought my son a Manco Magnum express 606 go kart. It has a brand new Predator 212 cc engine in it. It runs good but the brakes don't do a thing. When I was looking online for fixes I discovered this site. I already found a few suggestions on things to check and adjust. If anyone has a recommendation for a brake kit or other things I should check I'm all ears.

Thanks in advance
Jesse

 

[Hellion]

Hi and welcome to the site, brother! Good kart, good gear and a great location.


Show us pics of the kart's current brake setup and our team of experts will advise you.

 

[ActionHeroJes]

Thanks, I'll get some pictures of the brakes posted this evening.

 

[Hellion]

Looks like a mechanical disc brake setup. The brake is adjustable as to where in the pedal travel it engages of course but your brake pads may in fact be worn out. Here's some info:

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MECHANICAL BRAKE CALIPER

Go Kart Disc Brakes | Go Kart Brake Pads | Brake Calipers

Go Kart Disc Brake Parts - Mechanical Brake Calipers, Hydraulic Brake Calipers, Go Kart Brake Pads and Go Kart Master Cylinders. American Sportworks Brakes, Manco Brakes and many more.

www.gokartsupply.com

 

[Hellion]

https://gokartsrus.com/media/wysiwyg/PDF_GO-KART/606B.pdf

Model 606 Go-Kart Parts Manuals

Model 606 Go-Kart Parts Manual

gokartsrus.com

 

[ActionHeroJes]

Thanks Hellion. Those links will be really helpful. I believe the mechanical brake caliper in the first link is what I have. I'll double check and order that if it is just to start fresh. Thanks for you help!

 

[Hellion]

You can buy a whole new caliper with brake pads installed or just the brake "pucks". Shop around, there's no doubt you can find them much cheaper as long as you're a savvy shopper

 

[Hellion]

Make sure the boys aren't 'riding the brakes' while they're on the gas. That can accelerate brake pad wear....

 

[ActionHeroJes]

You can buy a whole new caliper with brake pads installed or just the brake "pucks". Shop around, there's no doubt you can find them much cheaper as long as you're a savvy shopper

I'm sure I could shop around some but I'd gladly pay extra just so I don't have to listen to my son asking me every 60 minutes if I found a way to fix his brakes.

 

[Hellion]

Did you find out that, indeed, the brake pads were gone? It could be that the pedal linkage is fouled up, or anything really.

 

[ActionHeroJes]

Did you find out that, indeed, the brake pads were gone? It could be that the pedal linkage is fouled up, or anything really.

I just started to dig into it. Last night we took off the plastic cover to see what we were dealing with. The whole caliper was loose in the bracket so I tightened that up. Did a quick test ride and it didn't make any difference. I'm not sure how to tell visually if the pads are good or not. It's hard to get a good view of them. At the very least I plan on replacing those. Actually the whole caliper with new pads isn't that much more than pads alone so I'll probably do it all.

 

[Whitetrashrocker]

I had that style on my dingo. I never thought they were that great. They kinda work. You have to adjust that pin just right. Just barely loose when no pressure is applied.
Try giving the pads a sanding with a wire wheel or some coarse sand paper. Dont go crazy, just get the glazed surface rough again.

 

[Denny]

Welcome to the asylum! You don’t need brakes with that big open space!

 

[Hellion]

If the OEM mechanical brake is that bad, maybe a basic hydraulic brake kit is in order? Might just need a caliper (and reservoir, etc) and use the existing disc.... but you'll likely need to fabricate the caliper mount or have someone do it.

 

[panchothedog]

Welcom! I have a manco Intruder. Reasonably simaler to yours. And just like
Whitetrashrocker stated, the mechanical disc are almost O K when at their best.
I bought the whole kit ( caliper and pads ) just like in the picture from Go Power Sports. I think it was in the low $30 range. Worked better than the original that was on the kart. I think the way mount is, it is supposed to float in there. Where is the picture from? Ocatillo Wells?

 

[ActionHeroJes]

Yes, it was out in the Ocotillo Wells area. We don't need brakes often but when we do some climbs the coming back down can be dicey. I took a couple of pics of the caliper last night. It looks identical to that one on gokartsupply.com so I'll probably go that route.

 

[panchothedog]

That is the same brake, and hexagon axle as on mine. The new one will help. One thing I did to mine was to increase pulling power on caliper arm. The arm that comes out of the bottom of the caliper ( where your break pedal pull arm bolts to)
I extended it by bolting on about a 2" piece of steel, drilling as needed, it also helped. I take my Grandkids to the same place.

 

[Whitetrashrocker]

That is the same brake, and hexagon axle as on mine. The new one will help. One thing I did to mine was to increase pulling power on caliper arm. The arm that comes out of the bottom of the caliper ( where your break pedal pull arm bolts to)
I extended it by bolting on about a 2" piece of steel, drilling as needed, it also helped. I take my Grandkids to the same place.

I did the same. I made mine with an extra hole. It was a little much. The amount of foot pedal travel grows with this bar extended.

 

[panchothedog]

I did the same. I made mine with an extra hole. It was a little much. The amount of foot pedal travel grows with this bar extended.

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Yes it does. But the amount of clamping power onto the disc increases. Mine looks a lot like yours ( except it's under the kart ) on the bottom. I have attached mine on what would be your 2nd hole. Made a noticeable difference compared to the stock location.

 

[ActionHeroJes]

I finally had some time to start working on this. I removed half of the existing brake caliper. It appears that to take the other half of the caliper off that some additional steps need to happen. What is the best way to accomplish this? Am I missing something because I think the rear axle would need to be dropped down to get the disc out of the way. Have I mentioned that I am an average YouTube mechanic at best.