Gear ratio for honda 2:1 reduction box

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So i have a kart with 11 inch tires and a 2:1 reduction box and i could use some help with gearing. Its about 400 lbs with me on it and i am looking for a top speed around 45 mph. any help would be much appreciated.
 

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11 inch tires, 400 lbs, 45 mph.

Standard yard go kart or a race go kart? I'm assuming you have a 4 stroke industrial engine?

centrifugal clutch carts with stock 5-7 hp engine should go around 25 mph

30 series torque converter karts with 5-7 hp engines should go up to 35 mph

40 series torque converter karts with 8-16 hp engines should go up to 40 mph.

If you increase the RPMS (because gearing will burn up your clutch or mess with the belt upon start if you start to go much beyond these max speeds) through performance parts, you will see a 50% gain in theoretical max speed.

Does a gear reduction box make your ratio increase or decrease? e.g. 1 RPM w/gear reduction box = 2 RPMS out or .5 out?
 

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Yard kart with 420cc honda clone. Not sure what the 2:1 box does. I was hoping somebody here would know.
 

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when I look up the description it does say its a reduction so I'm thinking 1 revolution of the motor equals two revolutions on the output shaft of the reduction box
 

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First question, is it just a reduction box or is it also a wet clutch (can you hold the output shaft still while the engine is idling)?
 

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yeah it is the wet clutch style. it seems to be pretty common on rental karts from what I've noticed
 

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Ok, that's a good thing... & a bad thing...

The good:
-no need to worry about an external clutch
-you can over gear it slightly

The bad:
-you can't use an external clutch
-repairing/replacing a worn out clutch can be a nightmare

So, you have a 2:1 redux with a wet clutch & 11" tyres, you should be heading for somewhere around 3:1 gearing, give or take, depending on other factors like engine size...
 

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so what sprocket sizes would make a 3 to 1 ratio. please forgive my ignorance is the first time I've ever had to set up gears on a go kart
 

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That depends on what size sprocket will fit the engine output shaft; if you can fit a 15tooth sprocket on the engine, what size do you think you would put on the axle?
 

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You won't feel stupid when you are riding your go kart. Everyone is here to share and learn. Thanks for asking the question.
 

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With the 420 and 11" tires your going to top out way below 45 mph

Whoa, hang on, I missed that bit :oops:

If you're using a 420cc engine, you can safely drop the overall ratio to 5:1, which means using an axle sprocket in the mid to high 30s... but it still won't get you to 45mph...
 
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