Fuel injection system or carbureted
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What if nitrous is being used or it has a turbo?
Denny
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Then the engine will blow up and babies will be harmed blocks away from the shrapnel you created. Now you don’t want that to happen? Do you?
No and no. It will be at a closed off place.
madprofessor
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Rember that nitrous only adds oxygen to the fuel/air mix. Without adding more fuel with the nitrous, well, wish in one hand and spit in the other, see which one fills up first.
Denny
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Oh just let him run his nawse to get it out of his system. He ain’t going to listen until he’s learned.
pearl111
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What does ....nawse....mean?
Denny
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It’s one of those kid things thinking they are cool. In the olden days we called it nitrous oxide system or juiceing or squeezing.
Cindi_PDX
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Hi, Bobo1959 is correct. A properly sized and tuned Carburetor will make the maximum amount of power from an engine (and is lower in cost to purchase).
Also a properly sized and tuned Fuel Injection system will also make the maximum amount of power from an engine.
The key words are "properly sized and tuned". It is difficult to tune and engine without some way of making precise measurements after each change in tuning. A Dynamometer is the most common tool (but expensive). An inexpensive alternate is a timed run over a known distance.
An EGT meter (Exhaust Gas Temperature Meter) can help when adjusting fuel mixture as "too lean" = "too hot", and "too hot" will cause engine damage.
Adding Nitrous or Boost to an engine also requires special tuning.
In general, I have found that using a larger displacement engine is much easier and cheaper than extracting the maximum horsepower out of a small engine for recreational use.
madprofessor
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Pretty sure I say "nawse" also. Probably more accurate if I said "noss". Technically correct would be the company brand name of "Nitrous Oxide Systems", or NOS, or noss, or nawse. Any product of the molecule of N2O for engine horsepower boost gets called by the generic company brand name of NOS.
How It Works - Nitrous Oxide Systems (motortrend.com)
madprofessor
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Ditto. Much easier, and gets you the torque that is too hard to get out of a smaller engine. Expensive to hotrod a small engine, and mainly gets you more horsepower at higher rpms, not so much for the low end torque. Cost overall for hotrodding a small engine or starting with a larger engine ready to go out of the box is pretty much an even wash.
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Yes, but the kid that asked the question in the first place probably hasn't even followed the thread so he never got the point. He's probably busy concocting another question that he doesn't understand or really seem to care about when folks are trying to give him a logical answer.
pearl111
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Sorry I must of had a brain fart. now I remember....NOS.
Denny
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You know I learned about engines and their theory like I learned about sex. On the streets and on my own. I read books, studied How To Hot Rod Your Small And Big Block Chevrolet. I Read Smokey Yunic’s books. Then when I had a grasp on things I would ask the older guys questions. By age 12 I could talk to them intelligently. I put in the time to learn. Kids nowadays think they can watch some fake movie by Hollywood and go out and be Ricky Racer. It just don’t work that way in real life. Learn engine theory, then you will know how to ask intelligent questions.
I even see it a lot on here people who don’t even know how an engine operates that are going to take their engine apart and replace the cam, rod, piston and flywheel. Yet they don’t even know why they are doing it! Or replacing valve springs, rockers and pushrods and not even know how to adjust lash. They don’t understand all the systems relationship to each other. Or my personal favorite replace or reject a carburetor without understanding how it works. Come on people crack open a book! Turbochargers don’t play nice with single cylinder engines. They can be made to work just not as good as with a multi cylinder engine. Learn why folks! Small industrial engines don’t really care for nitrous. Learn why by reading!
I don’t really care if I have hurt anyone’s feelings. It’s about time someone told them the truth instead of trying to make them feel better because they are ignorant of the subject. That is why I try to point people in a direction where they can read up and learn on their own and then they can ask intelligent questions.
I’ll step off of my soap box now and end this rant. Not sorry.
Denny
I even see it a lot on here people who don’t even know how an engine operates that are going to take their engine apart and replace the cam, rod, piston and flywheel. Yet they don’t even know why they are doing it! Or replacing valve springs, rockers and pushrods and not even know how to adjust lash. They don’t understand all the systems relationship to each other. Or my personal favorite replace or reject a carburetor without understanding how it works. Come on people crack open a book! Turbochargers don’t play nice with single cylinder engines. They can be made to work just not as good as with a multi cylinder engine. Learn why folks! Small industrial engines don’t really care for nitrous. Learn why by reading!
I don’t really care if I have hurt anyone’s feelings. It’s about time someone told them the truth instead of trying to make them feel better because they are ignorant of the subject. That is why I try to point people in a direction where they can read up and learn on their own and then they can ask intelligent questions.
I’ll step off of my soap box now and end this rant. Not sorry.
Denny
madprofessor
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That's about as good a piece of educational content as I could come up with myself. Probably more so because of my hesitancy (due to the last 4 marriages) to show people the raw truth they aren't really prepared to absorb.
Yojih and all others, I strongly encourage you to gain the knowledge you need about these mechanical factors by reading online published facts from manufacturers and dealers first, and asking here for clarification only after having done so. You will gain a lot more insight from this forum if you come armed with some solid theory under your belt first.
Denny
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You said it more eloquently than I did. I may even get a time out for it. But it is the simple truth. Learn why you are doing something! Don’t just be a parts changer!
most of the mods done here are to improve reliability. Not to make more power. But all people see is the bling and go Ooooh pretty trinkets MUST HAVE!!
most of the mods done here are to improve reliability. Not to make more power. But all people see is the bling and go Ooooh pretty trinkets MUST HAVE!!
Denny
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Cindy if you are a woman will you marry me? Just kidding. You have said all the things I have been advocating for for years. There is no replacement for displacement!!
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Denny, stay on that soap box. Very well spoken. Engine building is a VERY enjoyable and satisfying hobby, but it seems like many compare it to assembeling a charm bracelet or playing a video game.
Denny
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How true!