Engine wiring causing problem

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I have a 49cc 2 stroke no idea on motor or brand. But it's simple electric start set up no pull start. The engine will turn over when I have the starter pressed but it will not continue to run if it not. The battery is good spark plug has a spark gas is getting to the engine and carb is clean. The issue seems to be somewhere In The wiring but I'm at a loss I have a new starter relay and setup going on I even tried to copy (in a more basic way of course ) my motorcycle wiring. The engine will continue to run as long as the start button is pressed.
 

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Basically it's barely ever the wiring
it's either compression, spark or fuelmix. (no engine needs more than those three things to run)

since it's a small two stroke I assume it's a piston port ..
in which case as long as the piston rings are still intact (grinding noise if not) and the head gasket is as well compression should be okay'ish at least.

spark.. even if you test the plug (holding it to the engine and watching it spark)
doesn't mean that the plug will fire INSIDE the engine, or is strong enough to ignite the fuel properly.
So get a new plug and test it again.
Oh no wait.. if it's got a CDI module (say it's a scooter engine) it might indeed be the wiring,
but frankly.. as long as the kill switch isn't engaged, and it pops (not just turns) while the starter button is pressed.. it's NOT an electric problem at all ;)
but still if the CDI isn't working or not working properly it's a "no spark" situation again :D

Have you cleaned the carb? yourself? properly? including poking all jets and breather holes? twice?
No, well.. try again... we've seen carbs that started to work properly after a third and fourth thorough cleaning process only.
(have you reset the adjusters after cleaning?? try that first! full in, then two and a half turns out should at least stay running, however lousy)

But we need pics.. better a video of you trying to start it (to hear it)
maybe we can even tell make and model of the engine...

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The deal is it will run when the start switch is pressed and stay running as long as it is. If I remove that from being pressed it cuts off. However I also see that the throttle does nothing when it's running like that open or closed throttle same speed and the sprocket doesn't turn very fast actually very slow. I will get a new spark plug today and get some pics up. Carb has been cleaned thoroughly check over and over. I think the engine is a zooma cat eye or something of the like. Is there any link to a proper wiring diagram... All the ones I find don't seem to be right. Also again I will try to get up pics or a video. Thanks for the reply sid.
 

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sounds like you inadvertantly grounded the kill switch with the starter button;
opening it when pushed and closing it back when released...

get rid of ALL the wires of the starter button (by disconnecting them, not cutting ;))
now find the two wires and ONLY the two wires that go to the starter relais
(normally they're wrapped and one is green.. but check.. do not rely on just that sentence!)
short them for a second and as soon as the engine pops the second time release them again.
if the engine dies it's not the starter button miswired and you can connect it back up as it was..
if the engine stays running however, find the one wire that kills the engine when shorted to ground.
(i.e. take every non-red wire and touch the chassis with it; if the engine dies that's the kill switch)

Take pics so that we can see what you're working with (it helps us think and tell you more exactly where to look for an issue)

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Here are some photos I believe it's a Cateye engine a zooma scooter one. The wiring is all unhooked I have no CSI box or reg/rec there is only one red wire coming from the stator so all the wiring diagrams say something about 4 wires ?
 

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Cdi*box and also update I put in new piston rings and double checked the fuel mix and also reclraned the carb I'm
Waiting for some new wires to come in so I can fix the mess I bought.
 
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