Drive clutch assembly for Firefox 620

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Looking for drive clutch assembly for Firefox 620 all the other gy6 variators I've found isnt big enough. Mine has key way on driveshaft and the roller weights are solid all around. None of the variators I've found online are big enough to fit the shaft and don't have key way I've searched all I could and nothing.
 

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since when has a firefox 620 a gy6 engine?

as far as I know it's an industrial engine and a series 30 comet TorqueConverter.

Post pics to verify which one you're going to need.

but what you are looking for is this:
http://www.mfgsupply.com/gomini/gom...orq30/gominiclutchtorq30drive/219552a-w1.html
for the more recent ones.

[EDIT]
Indeed the older ones didn't use a comet series 20 but a scooter cvt
(NOT for gy6 engines though, since you still need to fit it to an industrial engine ;))
That is -according to alpha sports- no longer available.
But CVT variators are pretty much failsafe.
clean it up and you'll be good to go (you may need to install new rollers, that's it)

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since when has a firefox 620 a gy6 engine?

as far as I know it's an industrial engine and a series 20/30 comet TorqueConverter.

Post pics to verify which one you're going to need.

but what you are looking for is this:
http://www.mfgsupply.com/gomini/gom...chtorq20/gominiclutchtorq20drive/219559a.html
for the old generations of the ff620

or that
http://www.mfgsupply.com/gomini/gom...orq30/gominiclutchtorq30drive/219552a-w1.html
for the more recent ones.

And no, they are NOT IDENTICAL!

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Tomberlin used the CVT setup 1st before switching to comet style
 

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Tomberlin used the CVT setup 1st before switching to comet style

jup, just found it in the parts list.. a scooter CVT mounted to an industrial engine.. never seen that kind of BS before :lolgoku:

Anywho, :useless:

The variator itself is failsafe.. as long as you haven't broken anything off,
you'll be able to revive it with elbowgrease and maybe new rollers.

[edited] previous post..;)

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Yes except in my attempt to remove the old one without impact drill I broke a few spindles.
 

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Can't get it to upload more than one at a time gonna send cpl more
 

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you can upload more than one at a time, you only need to remname the images to something else than image.jpg.. otherwise the second will overwrite the first selcted image.

But no need to post more...
Is that "CH125" that I read?

can you identify the makers signet in the cast?
(or post a picture of that in closer detail?)

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Ok sure will this evening when I get off work, thanks a lot guys.
 

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Here's a picture of fan and weights.

All I really need is a new fan and weights it seems.
 

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Now we're talking..

that CVT was made by "Shanghai Honling Motorcycle Manufacture Co., Ltd"
Or Honling, or just SHL as you can read from your cast ;)

and the logo is familiar too I assume ;)

even better.. that company still makes scooters and also variators so chances are, they still make the part you need..

the downside -as always I'm afraid- it's chinese c***
(like 99% of the so called "usa karts" :()
and the only non chinese websites I've found selling shl parts are russian websites..

Soooo yeah.

But:
apart from it being 3/4" keyed and not splined (like for gy6 engines) that appears to be a rather std size (115 mm)
so nearly any variator fan should fit.. as long as it's made for a 3/4" keyed shaft.

If you care to search for shl online, you may find a contact form..
I happened to have great success in asking chinese companies (even bigger ones) for help.
I always got a friendly response and most of the times even the part I needed;
it took a while (shipping is a pain.. always a pain) but they're always kind enough to help if they can..
give it a try if all else fails.

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Weigh them. Then get sliders that are two grams less. The sliders for a gy6 will fit in there.

I do know the blades broke but it should still be functional.
 

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yea looks like I'm just going to have to put it back on and use it until I can actually find one. I am also going to try and scoop up some ff620s for parts if I can find any around at decent prices.
 

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yea looks like I'm just going to have to put it back on and use it until I can actually find one. I am also going to try and scoop up some ff620s for parts if I can find any around at decent prices.

best of buying another for parts if you see one cheap.
 

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personally.. I'd put the rest of the cvt contraption on ebay to get a few pennies and buy a series 30 TAV kit.. (clone ..from ebay ~100USD)

same idea, but waaaay easier to get parts just in case ;)


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