DIYGK Grammar Champions

[Rat]

Rat, the men that founded this country were not only geniuses, they were some of the bravest S O B's that ever lived. Every one of them put his fortune (if he had any, and many of them did) and their life ( instant death by hanging ) if it had not been successful. And all they were doing was challenging the undisputed most powerful military on the planet. Your remark of " debatable " is way off the mark.

None of that takes a genius by definition. Men tired backed in a corner? Sure! Men tired of dictatorship and tyranny? Absolutely! More terrified of the gallows than failure? Probably so.

That is in No way genius... that is simply seeking a resolution by any means necessary. That pioneering change where change was undesirable; No different than the Civil War, a pissing match between the way things always had been and the way that "civilization" should be

Your standard of what makes a genius seems set quite low, which laughably is none of my concern.

You and I see level on most things as far as I can tell... but this one aspect is going to be a No for Me.

Kick the sh★t out of a dog enough times and one day that dog is going to rip you apart for it and not care one damn bit what happens next whether it is an execution or taking tonthe streets. THAT is what our founding fathers were!

I realize that there is more than a generation between yourself and me in age, and I'm not sure exactly when American History began being phased out in school, but I hold a vastly different opinion. I don't think I am an outlier.

It was some time in the last 20 years (Im from class of Y2k) because we learned Not JUST US history, and local State relevant history, but world history of global significance. Hell by 7th grade we were learning about WWII and all the foul and inhumane misdeeds that surround those dark years.

I wasn't taught by common core idiocy, I was taught by teachers that decided their own damn lesson plans and required district approval to proceed with what they were going to do.

Off topic, my 5th grade Science had more in common with biology than 8th grade biology does these days...I remember it well because it was gross and squishy even by my standards, but also cool as hell because I am not nor ever have been squeamish.

The teacher brought in a container of surgical scalpals and a big bag of cow eyes from the slaughter house because we were learning about eye anatomy and the lesson goal was to remove the lens by any means without damaging it or the cornea.

Yeah, I have a dangerous good memory for all the BS I've survived.

 

[Functional Artist]

Kick the sh★t out of a dog enough times and one day that dog is going to rip you apart for it and not care one damn bit what happens next whether it is an execution or taking tonthe streets. THAT is what our founding fathers were!

A "dog" in that situation is "is" only looking out (trying to make life better) for him/herself

Our forefathers were thinking toward the future...a free society

IMO the "genius" of our forefathers was dreaming of this "free" society (freedom of thought, of speech, in politics & religion)
...& then, "making it happen"
...by codifying "that dream" with the most ingenious document on the planet The Constitution of the United States of America

 

[Speedster]

Debatable

WHAT!?

 

[Speedster]

None of that takes a genius by definition. Men tired backed in a corner? Sure! Men tired of dictatorship and tyranny? Absolutely! More terrified of the gallows than failure? Probably so.

That is in No way genius... that is simply seeking a resolution by any means necessary. That pioneering change where change was undesirable; No different than the Civil War, a pissing match between the way things always had been and the way that "civilization" should be

Your standard of what makes a genius seems set quite low, which laughably is none of my concern.

You and I see level on most things as far as I can tell... but this one aspect is going to be a No for Me.

Kick the sh★t out of a dog enough times and one day that dog is going to rip you apart for it and not care one damn bit what happens next whether it is an execution or taking tonthe streets. THAT is what our founding fathers were!

It was some time in the last 20 years (Im from class of Y2k) because we learned Not JUST US history, and local State relevant history, but world history of global significance. Hell by 7th grade we were learning about WWII and all the foul and inhumane misdeeds that surround those dark years.

I wasn't taught by common core idiocy, I was taught by teachers that decided their own damn lesson plans and required district approval to proceed with what they were going to do.

Off topic, my 5th grade Science had more in common with biology than 8th grade biology does these days...I remember it well because it was gross and squishy even by my standards, but also cool as hell because I am not nor ever have been squeamish.

The teacher brought in a container of surgical scalpals and a big bag of cow eyes from the slaughter house because we were learning about eye anatomy and the lesson goal was to remove the lens by any means without damaging it or the cornea.

Yeah, I have a dangerous good memory for all the BS I've survived.

I'd say they were geniuses to know when to act. I mean, take a look at most people nowadays. THEY clearly don't... (know when to act.) And can you imagine STARTING a friggin country? With no ready-made templates? And no internet to ask the neighbors how to do it?

 

[bob58o]

 

[Denny]

Kevin, your only interested in the last 3 things he did.

 

[Functional Artist]

Kevin, your only interested in the last 3 things he did.

Hey Denny,

I agree with (2) outta (3)
...but, I'm not & never have been a nudist!

 

[Master Hack]

Kevin, your only interested in the last 3 things he did.

Hell ya, 'sept the only time i'm a nudist is in the shower.

 

[ezcome-ezgo]

He liked to party in France. Was largely responsible for them becoming our ally.

 

[Rat]

Franklin was quite the perv, wrote a fair bit of smut

 

[Master Hack]

So nuthin's really changed.

 

[bob58o]

Early to bed,
Quickly I rise,
Twirl, Twirl, Twirl,
The Helicopter Flies.

I’m not a perv,
Quakers are prude,
Holding their noses up,
While smelling me nude.

So make a tree,
Go now and bark,
All cats are grey,
When the light turns dark.

 

[Hellion]

Kevin, your you are/you're only interested in the last 3 things he did.

Surely you remember the invention of the language called Ebonics. I have no clue if that is the correct way to spell the word. I think it was introduced by someone on the school board in Oakland California in the late 90's. I remember Rush
Limbaugh used talk about it when they were trying push it onto people. Just the idea of it was a huge step downward.

Well, it is here to stay because it has existed on the fringe of society. It is now mainstream because the media has spread it around and elevated it just like every other thing that occupies the lowest common denominator is elevated. I don't think it was the teachers doing the majority of the dirty work/heavy lifting but I could be wrong.

Ebonics or AAVE (African American Vernacular English) is firmly entrenched, the "language" is used by all races not just blacks and I believe AAVE is the term they use now with Ebonics having fallen out of favor. Most people use it and don't even know they're using it. One such is example is going around saying "my bad" "my bad" instead of "my mistake" or "I'm sorry" which would be splendid.

AAVE is probably intermeshed with something I like to call "teenspeak" that is all the rage.

 

[Grizzlymi]

What up doe? This term was started in Detroit, and I've been using it since a teen. Buddy at works walks up "what up doe?" Me "shyt, you?" "Shyt, not much". Simple talk for us blue collar guys.

 

[Whitetrashrocker]

Yeah, no?
Means both yes and no.

 

[Grizzlymi]

Haha! Can't believe there are videos about this. Didn't know this was local till recently. we have saying this since at least the early 90's.

To everyone on the DIY forums, What up doe?

 

[Denny]

Haha! Can't believe there are videos about this. Didn't know this was local till recently. we have saying this since at least the early 90's.

To everyone on the DIY forums, What up doe?

I didn’t understand a word he said. I have enough trouble with regular English. Can you dig it man?

 

[panchothedog]

Well, it is here to stay because it has existed on the fringe of society. It is now mainstream because the media has spread it around and elevated it just like every other thing that occupies the lowest common denominator is elevated. I don't think it was the teachers doing the majority of the dirty work/heavy lifting but I could be wrong.

Ebonics or AAVE (African American Vernacular English) is firmly entrenched, the "language" is used by all races not just blacks and I believe AAVE is the term they use now with Ebonics having fallen out of favor. Most people use it and don't even know they're using it. One such is example is going around saying "my bad" "my bad" instead of "my mistake" or "I'm sorry" which would be splendid.

AAVE is probably intermeshed with something I like to call "teenspeak" that is all the rage.

If you have ever spoken with a " full blooded American, born and raised in Hawaii of Philipino or true Hawaiian decent " speaking what they call pigeon English, even though it is English, it is like people speaking another language. I'm like
Denny, can't understand a word.

 

[Kartorbust]

Biggest issue is, about 40 years ago, they stopped teaching phonics and went an easier way that only worked up until like 4th grade and became more of a detriment.

 

[Master Hack]

All part of the grand plan....