http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/COME...ategoryZ46092QQitemZ320614483768#ht_500wt_975 check that out **** it sucks im in Australia tho i could get it shipped over 
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devino246
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The blue reflection leads me to believe its a GTC, not a Comet.
Bluethunder3320
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haha, $65 more than what normal shipping is.
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same.
r97
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99 percent sure its not an actual comet.
shipping is highway robbery,
doesn't come with belt, jack shaft, mounting plate, or hardware,
i think some guy has tried advertising it here before,
if i found one with reasonable shipping i would buy it, chances are any tc is better than a cent clutch (in most cases), hopefully.
shipping is highway robbery,
doesn't come with belt, jack shaft, mounting plate, or hardware,
i think some guy has tried advertising it here before,
if i found one with reasonable shipping i would buy it, chances are any tc is better than a cent clutch (in most cases), hopefully.
robbie
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It looks like a copy of a Comet, made in China. The ebay seller is the company that makes them. They're charging $75 shipping because they're mailing it from China.
I bought a brand new 49cc engine from an ebay seller in China. As far as I can tell, they charged me actual shipping plus a reasonable price for the engine, which came to a total slightly less than what you could buy one for here.
I don't see what the big deal is about this torque converter auction. It's just like everything else nowadays. They take a popular product, make an exact copy, and sell it for cheap.
I bought a brand new 49cc engine from an ebay seller in China. As far as I can tell, they charged me actual shipping plus a reasonable price for the engine, which came to a total slightly less than what you could buy one for here.
I don't see what the big deal is about this torque converter auction. It's just like everything else nowadays. They take a popular product, make an exact copy, and sell it for cheap.
r97
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http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9513
is mfg supply selling these things?
is mfg supply selling these things?
Doc Sprocket
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That is definately a knockoff. The seller has been on this forum. Not that I really have a problem with Chinese knockoffs other than to say "Caveat Emptor", or Buyer Beware. For Robbie to suggest that they make an exact copy is not a true statement. Without getting in to a whole clone-bashing thing again, Chinese copies are not, and cannot be exact duplicates of the product being imitated. Mark my words, the quality is not there. Now, that's not to say it won't work- I'm sure it will. But from metallurgy and specs, to assembly, to quality control, they are simply not equal to the original. Hence my buyer beware statement. If you can get a really good price, go for it. But be cognizant of the fact that it's not a Comet, or Honda or whoever's product has been cloned. You will likely not see a comparable reliability, nor warranty, nor service...
So- look at the price tag and decide if it's worth it. Obviously with Comet being a greasy memory, we are likely to buy these things. Hope for the best, but expect much less...
EDIT- I looked over the ad again- It states all over the place that they're Comet parts. Maybe, I guess... But I know good and well that this guy flogs clones, too. Better hope these are Comet parts, or he's up the creek for false advertising... And my above statements still stand.
So- look at the price tag and decide if it's worth it. Obviously with Comet being a greasy memory, we are likely to buy these things. Hope for the best, but expect much less...
EDIT- I looked over the ad again- It states all over the place that they're Comet parts. Maybe, I guess... But I know good and well that this guy flogs clones, too. Better hope these are Comet parts, or he's up the creek for false advertising... And my above statements still stand.
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ADDITIONAL INFO- Speak of the devil... He opened another DIYGK account and just posted another link to his store.....
robbie
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I only said "exact copy" because that's a common theme in Chinese factories. You can usually tell the difference between original and copy, but for all practical purposes it's a copy. In a lot of cases the parts are even interchangeable.
I would be surprised if this were a real Comet. These Chinese factory guys don't worry much about traditional western business practices, so they just call it whatever they think you want them to call it. Their philosophy is that all they need to do is make an affordable product and get as many people to see it as possible. Trying to get them to observe customary etiquette on a forum is like playing whack-a-mole. They'll just pop up somewhere else, people will buy their products, and they'll have the last laugh.
I have to admit that I'm curious about their torque converters. It's probably just like everything else. It's a piece of machinery, it probably works, and if it has a weak point they'll iron it out before too long. Chinese quality just keeps getting better, now that they've had engineers from Europe, Japan and the USA telling them how to do it for the past 20 years.
For those of you who prefer to buy reputable brands from traditional American, Japanese and European companies, guess where those are made now. They make just about everything in China, including Honda engines. Check out the last line on this Honda investors report page: http://world.honda.com/investors/annualreport/2006/06.html The way I heard the story, the reason why they make Honda clones in China is because these same factories were making real Honda engines for Honda, then they simply put their own logo on after the contract expired.
Anyway, that's a lot of talk.... I've noticed that Chinese factories selling direct on ebay is a new trend. It's not much different from buying the same Chinese stuff from a dealer. I'll probably check out these torque converters myself sooner or later. I'll bet the one in for sale in the auction would liven up my 2.5 hp clone. It even comes with the correct 5/8" shaft size.
I would be surprised if this were a real Comet. These Chinese factory guys don't worry much about traditional western business practices, so they just call it whatever they think you want them to call it. Their philosophy is that all they need to do is make an affordable product and get as many people to see it as possible. Trying to get them to observe customary etiquette on a forum is like playing whack-a-mole. They'll just pop up somewhere else, people will buy their products, and they'll have the last laugh.
I have to admit that I'm curious about their torque converters. It's probably just like everything else. It's a piece of machinery, it probably works, and if it has a weak point they'll iron it out before too long. Chinese quality just keeps getting better, now that they've had engineers from Europe, Japan and the USA telling them how to do it for the past 20 years.
For those of you who prefer to buy reputable brands from traditional American, Japanese and European companies, guess where those are made now. They make just about everything in China, including Honda engines. Check out the last line on this Honda investors report page: http://world.honda.com/investors/annualreport/2006/06.html The way I heard the story, the reason why they make Honda clones in China is because these same factories were making real Honda engines for Honda, then they simply put their own logo on after the contract expired.
Anyway, that's a lot of talk.... I've noticed that Chinese factories selling direct on ebay is a new trend. It's not much different from buying the same Chinese stuff from a dealer. I'll probably check out these torque converters myself sooner or later. I'll bet the one in for sale in the auction would liven up my 2.5 hp clone. It even comes with the correct 5/8" shaft size.
r97
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the driver (one on the engine) is 3/4" bore not 5/8"(the driven is 5/8" bore), if your engine has a 5/8" crank shaft (with a 3/16" key-way) you will need this,
http://www.gsistore.com/5idx3odshadb1.html
and this,
http://www.drillspot.com/products/398699/Approved_Vendor_5UE91_Key_Stock?s=1
http://www.gsistore.com/5idx3odshadb1.html
and this,
http://www.drillspot.com/products/398699/Approved_Vendor_5UE91_Key_Stock?s=1
robbie
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Oops... I was just skimming the text and I saw 5/8....
Thanks for the links to the adapter and key. That's handy.
You know, if I had the money right now I'd try it out on my kids' go kart. That's just what that little pee-wee kart needs. I have the cheap Chinese torque converters for 49cc 2 stroke engines that I picked up on ebay for $19 earlier this year, and they are amazing.... but of course those are designed for an exact fit to the 2 stroke engine, not the HF clones.
By the way, did you notice that they reduced their shipping charge to $68? Hey Dan, maybe you should email the seller and see how much the shipping charge to Australia would be. You're a lot closer to China than we are. If you get a quote, post it here. I'd be interested to see what's a more important factor, proximity or volume of mail.
Thanks for the links to the adapter and key. That's handy.
You know, if I had the money right now I'd try it out on my kids' go kart. That's just what that little pee-wee kart needs. I have the cheap Chinese torque converters for 49cc 2 stroke engines that I picked up on ebay for $19 earlier this year, and they are amazing.... but of course those are designed for an exact fit to the 2 stroke engine, not the HF clones.
By the way, did you notice that they reduced their shipping charge to $68? Hey Dan, maybe you should email the seller and see how much the shipping charge to Australia would be. You're a lot closer to China than we are. If you get a quote, post it here. I'd be interested to see what's a more important factor, proximity or volume of mail.
migel101
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you people are paying a huge amount for tc, i found a abandoned scooter and im in the process of ripping the tc off.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jclusa.com/upfiles/JCL-MP50D-color-Blue.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.countyimports.com/inc/sdetail/19162&usg=__O-b8Rhteg0FuPpBtytGqpo9fAwE=&h=630&w=786&sz=117&hl=en&start=36&zoom=1&tbnid=mdpyBCvgETfQCM:&tbnh=152&tbnw=211&prev=/images%3Fq%3D50cc%2Bscooter%2Btorque%2Bconverter%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1317%26bih%3D641%26tbs%3Disch:10,925&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=386&vpy=351&dur=1340&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=214&ty=135&ei=LS3kTM6IGYyCsQOZv7lm&oei=Hi3kTNHMF8G3hAf-3eSFDg&esq=3&page=3&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:36&biw=1317&bih=641
this is not the scooter but you can still see the silver this thats attached to the back wheel
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jclusa.com/upfiles/JCL-MP50D-color-Blue.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.countyimports.com/inc/sdetail/19162&usg=__O-b8Rhteg0FuPpBtytGqpo9fAwE=&h=630&w=786&sz=117&hl=en&start=36&zoom=1&tbnid=mdpyBCvgETfQCM:&tbnh=152&tbnw=211&prev=/images%3Fq%3D50cc%2Bscooter%2Btorque%2Bconverter%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1317%26bih%3D641%26tbs%3Disch:10,925&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=386&vpy=351&dur=1340&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=214&ty=135&ei=LS3kTM6IGYyCsQOZv7lm&oei=Hi3kTNHMF8G3hAf-3eSFDg&esq=3&page=3&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:36&biw=1317&bih=641
this is not the scooter but you can still see the silver this thats attached to the back wheel
metalthrashinman
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Dudes, look at the ebay seller's name -- It's the hotgokartpart guy that has been spamming our forum with his Chinese parts for awhile now. Not a Comet product, remember?
It may be a well built product, but it is NOT COMET!
Click on his feedback rating and see it's from China.
They use the Comet name because with Comet out of biz, who is going to sue?
It may be a well built product, but it is NOT COMET!
Click on his feedback rating and see it's from China.
They use the Comet name because with Comet out of biz, who is going to sue?
Im pretty sure that what there selling is a chineese knock off.. and look at there "question and answer" section.. mostly the last one..
Q: Does this come with the belt
A: without the belt Anny
Q: i need a torque a verter, 3/4' shaft and 35 sprocket. do you have this?
A: Yes,It is the same of this type Anny
Q: do you sell just the cover
A: We also sell alex ,Plate,cover,Drive&Driven clutch. Thanks Anny
Whos alex and why is he for sale?
Q: Does this come with the belt
A: without the belt Anny
Q: i need a torque a verter, 3/4' shaft and 35 sprocket. do you have this?
A: Yes,It is the same of this type Anny
Q: do you sell just the cover
A: We also sell alex ,Plate,cover,Drive&Driven clutch. Thanks Anny
Whos alex and why is he for sale?
r97
Measure twice cut once
over all your looking at about 180 bucks including belt and ship.
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