Chain & Oil Questions

Denny

Canned Monster
Messages
11,716
Reaction score
8,158
Location
Mayberry, Indiana
I don’t believe in using oil that is more than a few million years old. Actually we should be using straight weight engine oil in our engines like 30 weight. It’s what their designed for. Straight weight engine oil was used in cars engines with no oil filter to keep the junk suspended in the oil and out of direct contact with the engine parts. Let’s see some pictures of that 68VW bus. Also some pictures of your aunt. :D
 
Last edited:

Hellion

Moderator
Messages
8,671
Reaction score
3,734
Let’s see some pictures of that 68VW bus

He’s shown it in one of his earlier threads. His Murray kart was parked next to it in the gay-rawhg.

Hey Squiddy, post the bus in the Post Your Car thread, even if it ain’t yours (yet).
 
Last edited:

Squiddy202

Manco Dingus
Messages
185
Reaction score
91
Location
Eastern Pennsylvania
Air filter pics:
It has paper and foam. Also, my dad said it might be a good idea to get it damp with oil after a good cleaning. (Should have cleaned it when I got it…) What are your thoughts on the damp filter?
IMG_2036.jpegIMG_2038.jpegIMG_2037.jpegIMG_2039.jpeg
I don’t believe in using oil that is more than a few million years old. Actually we should be using straight weight engine oil in our engines like 30 weight. It’s what they’re designed for. Straight weight engine oil was used in cars engines with no oil filter to keep the junk suspended in the oil and out of direct contact with the engine parts. Let’s see some pictures of that 68VW bus. Also some pictures of your aunt. :D
So do I then need to change the oil during the winter as well? I mean in PA we have about 11 seasons. Summer, fall, summer 2, winter, spring, winter 2, summer 3, spring, winter, spring, summer. Is multi weight bad, or not ideal? The oil is probably like 10 years old, not terrible. In regards to the bus, will post pics in the car thread, but I just got to take it in a parking lot to learn manual. First car I ever drove. Finally, do I use grease or oil on the chain?
 

Whitetrashrocker

Inmate #952016
Messages
4,734
Reaction score
3,884
Location
Southern New Mexico
Dont oil that filter. All that will donis collect dirt on the outside and strangle the engine.

You change the oil when it needs it.
How often do you ride?
It not a exact science. Maybe change it every 20 hours of ride time. Just look at the oil, you'll see it get darker and darker.

Chain lube is best.
But dribbling some motor oil is better than nothing. Doesn't take a lot. Just enought to wet the chain. Not drenched.
Too much will fling off and make a mess.
 

Hellion

Moderator
Messages
8,671
Reaction score
3,734
Dont oil that filter. All that will donis collect dirt on the outside and strangle the engine.

The foam pre-filter is very often oiled. The service interval usually involves taking it off, cleaning it in solvent or water and dish detergent, allow it to dry then lightly oil it with fresh motor oil, then install. If you’re talking about oiling the paper accordion filter, I’d also strongly advise against it. Oiling the foam pre-filter is de rigueur for many many applications, even vintage motorcycles.

I imagine your experience is different out there in the desert?

All this talk about oil color and when it runs dark is no indication that it’s time to change it, you know. I’d stick to a hour schedule and do something like every 10-20 hours if you like.

I use these but there are better ones out there.
 

Squiddy202

Manco Dingus
Messages
185
Reaction score
91
Location
Eastern Pennsylvania
Now put that oil on the chain. What about the pictures of your aunt? 🙂
No, the oil is far more complicated. It goes into oil-hallla, the old containers under the workbench. Then it gets poured into an oiler if deemed worthy every 10 years or so. Finally then it can be dispersed on anything that needs lubrication. Don’t have any aunt pics but you can have a guinea pig for your troubles!

IMG_2053.jpeg
 

Squiddy202

Manco Dingus
Messages
185
Reaction score
91
Location
Eastern Pennsylvania
The foam pre-filter is very often oiled. The service interval usually involves taking it off, cleaning it in solvent or water and dish detergent, allow it to dry then lightly oil it with fresh motor oil, then install. If you’re talking about oiling the paper accordion filter, I’d also strongly advise against it. Oiling the foam pre-filter is de rigueur for many many applications, even vintage motorcycles.
How often do you buy a new one? The paper looks pretty dusty. I could use a shop vac or compressed air but I doubt it would help very much.
 

Whitetrashrocker

Inmate #952016
Messages
4,734
Reaction score
3,884
Location
Southern New Mexico
The foam pre-filter is very often oiled. The service interval usually involves taking it off, cleaning it in solvent or water and dish detergent, allow it to dry then lightly oil it with fresh motor oil, then install. If you’re talking about oiling the paper accordion filter, I’d also strongly advise against it. Oiling the foam pre-filter is de rigueur for many many applications, even vintage motorcycles.

I imagine your experience is different out there in the desert?

All this talk about oil color and when it runs dark is no indication that it’s time to change it, you know. I’d stick to a hour schedule and do something like every 10-20 hours if you like.

I use these but there are better ones out there.
Yes, very dusty out here. Anything damp will just look like breaded chicken ready for the frier.
 

Squiddy202

Manco Dingus
Messages
185
Reaction score
91
Location
Eastern Pennsylvania
Forgot to say, did have a master link, I remembered it not having once since I previously thought it was scaled up bike chain masterlink that has something on both sides so I missed when I checked the side that was easier to see.

Edit: I could move the jackshaft and engine to tension chain but I accidentally bolted the jackshaft down crooked so I gotta fix it tomorrow. The pulleys and sprockets are no longer parallel until I fix that.
 
Last edited:

Hellion

Moderator
Messages
8,671
Reaction score
3,734
How often do you buy a new one? The paper looks pretty dusty. I could use a shop vac or compressed air but I doubt it would help very much.

Theoretically, the foam pre filter can be used and reused indefinitely as long as you clean it. After a while the foam can get sort of crumbly and start falling apart, then you’ll know its past its expiration date. Or you can replace it every year or according to schedule. The pre-filter can greatly extend the life of the main metal-mesh-paper filter because it prevents the latter from getting encrusted with debris. Looked at a Subaru EX17 manual (page 10) and it says:
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/4136080/Subaru-Ex17.html#manual

6. CLEANING AIR CLEANER
A dirty air cleaner element will cause starting difficulty, power
loss, engine malfunctions and shorten engine life extremely.
Always keep the air cleaner element clean.

A. Urethane Foam Element Type (See Fig 7-6)
Remove the element and wash it in kerosene
fuel. Then saturate it in a mixture of 3 parts kerosene or
diesel fuel and 1 part engine oil. Squeeze the element
to remove the excess mixture
(See Figo-6)-0)

B. Dual Element Type (Urethane Foam and Paper
elements) (See Fig.m-O)
Urethane Foam cleaning (See Fig.äl-Ø-O)
Wash and clean the urethane foam with detergent.
After cleaning, dry it.
Clean the urethane foam every 50 hours.

Paper Element Cleaning:
Clean by tapping gently to remove dirt and blow off dust.
Never use oil. Clean the paper element every 50 hours
of operation, and replace element set every 200 hours


Denny is, I guess, that proverbial “creepy uncle” we keep hearing about. I never had a creepy uncle so I can’t relate.
:smiley_omg: :lolgoku:
 

Denny

Canned Monster
Messages
11,716
Reaction score
8,158
Location
Mayberry, Indiana
Sorry man she lives with an ex-nun who was going to cancel a house deal over some cat barf. I don’t think she is all that interested.
It’s ok, I used to work as a security guard at a convent. And I did 12 years of Catholic school. I know all about nuns,,,, oohhh, I get what you’re saying. Was she a nun from St. Cyril and Methodious convent?
 

Squiddy202

Manco Dingus
Messages
185
Reaction score
91
Location
Eastern Pennsylvania
It’s ok, I used to work as a security guard at a convent. And I did 12 years of Catholic school. I know all about nuns,,,, oohhh, I get what you’re saying. Was she a nun from St. Cyril and Methodious convent?
I have no clue what you’re saying, but the ex-nun she lives with isn’t a huge fan of new things.
 

Denny

Canned Monster
Messages
11,716
Reaction score
8,158
Location
Mayberry, Indiana
It’s ok, I’m old. No need for her to be afraid of me. I’m not into nuns or ex-nuns. They are wound a little too tight for my tastes. But I do have 2 good friends that are nuns and we have a good time together. I’ve got them shooting guns and cussing.
 

Squiddy202

Manco Dingus
Messages
185
Reaction score
91
Location
Eastern Pennsylvania
It’s ok, I’m old. No need for her to be afraid of me. I’m not into nuns or ex-nuns. They are wound a little too tight for my tastes. But I do have 2 good friends that are nuns and we have a good time together. I’ve got them shooting guns and cussing.
Dude I’m telling you she isn’t interested. I don’t want to dabble in my aunt’s relations. She also isn’t a huge fan of guns.
 
Top