Building monster go kart from scratch

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Wim

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I'd like to see how this works out. It looks like a belt destroying machine, but if you're real careful and dont floor the throttle you might be able to keep them alive?

I wasnt sure if my 2-speed gearbox would spit teeth into the back of my head the first time I tested it, it was fun finding out.

Be sure to post the results (good or bad) for purely scientific purposes.
 

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Besides if Hotrodchevy83's idea dosen't work.(wich could work if done right) he can just sell one of his jet ski engines and have plenty of money to get a sled cvt. and is it going to be 2or 1seat?

yep thats the reason i designed it that way all i have to do was take of the second drive and position the cvt where need to be. the kart will be a 2 seater
 

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where would be the best place for rear shock location

It depends on your shock absorber. You need to know how much your kart weighs, and how many shock absorbers you're using, how much weight it takes to compress them, the length of the lever (how far out on the swing arm they are mounted), and the angle they are mounted. All of these variables add up to give you the whole answer.

I was just reading the comments about your belts, and it made me wonder...... The main thing about the belt is how the friction of the belt on the pulley compares to the friction of the wheel on the ground plus the inertia of the vehicle's mass. If your belt has less friction you'll only be able to take off slowly and you won't be able to climb hills. If your belt is tightened to optimal tension and you have big enough pulleys to give you lots of contact area, then it will work. But using the belt as a clutch doesn't seem right to me.

I think you would want your belt to be way over-rated for the application to keep it from smoking. Belts are not intended to be slipping devices. They are meant to grab and hold. Maybe that's where you got your opinion of CVTs, that they tend to lug down when they engage. Brakes and pressure-disc clutches are designed to slip. They're like a variable control, but rubber belts are more of an off/on device. Either a belt is off or it's on, but if it's anywhere in between, it's burning. Riding lawnmowers sometimes use a belt tensioning system as a clutch, but for that application they burn the belt for just a moment and then run the equipment for a long time. The momentary belt-frying is considered a good trade-off for simplicity because you don't start and stop a lot.

If you want to use a belt drive with a tensioner, and a 62 horsepower engine, I think you need to use a lot of belt contact area, and maybe more than two belts. You want it to grab and hold when you engage it, which means you'll be spinning the tires a lot and probably getting a jerky ride. Anything less than that, and your belts are history.

I had a 100 hp wood chipper that I sold last spring. If I remember correctly, I think it had 4 V belts. I thought it didn't seem like much for the amount of power being transferred, but the contact area was huge because the knife wheel was about 4 feet in diameter and the drive wheel was at least a foot. The power had to be engaged only with the engine at idle, and then the RPM had to be increased gradually, otherwise the belts would burn. And that was on a machine that had a pressure plate clutch PTO driving the belts.
 

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thats way i was wanting just for take off but if it doesnt work right i will be going back to the drawing board
 

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i agree with robbie
that is what iv been trying to say the whole time

there isnt much point trying to point out the seamingly obvious
we will just have to watch and see if it works

if it does than congrates to him
if it doesnt then we will then point out how to fix it
 

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oh i know i have my doubts but being gear reducted as it is and the 2 stroke torque doesnt kick in till mid range it maybe ok
 

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pics are here

heres some pics been busy
 

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well got the frame almost done i am ready to try this thing out gotta make a rack for fuel tank radiator water pump and battery finish the belt tensioner and throttle and brake cables will have more pics soon
 

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well hoping to get the fuel tank mounted and throttle and brake pedals fabbed then paint it this weekened
 

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lol thats what i itend to call it its frame is 50 inch wide end to end on rear tires is 58 inches same as a ranger
 

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I really like your project and commend you for doing something different. The only way
we really learn is to try it - if it doesn't work we try something else. I wish everyone wouldn't try to always save someone else from doing it differently. It be pretty boring if
we all built our karts the same way. If you can get that engine to work - great. If the belt
idea doesn't work - go to a clutch, its not the end of the world to try something and have to come up with a plan B.
Keep up the innovation!
 

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well guess some of yall are right the belts burned up drove a bit them slip in burned but i didnt fret i was give a 1981 suzuki gs850 bike shaft drive that had been overhauled so i am going to put it on there instead and save the jetski motor for my boat
 

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Nice progress! I plan on doing a slightly small 4x4 version of something like this! With dual A arm IRS and IFS. keep moving forward man!
 
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