Briggs 5 Hp Funpower Problem

[Russ2251]

Making statements like that, with no facts to back it up makes you look like a complete ***.

I won't single anyone out (there are many), but this happens too often.
I apologize for the off topic post.

 

[solomon]

not trying to be an *** but if thier is nothing to absorb the engine vibration it will shake bad. I did this to my kart and i never noticed a difference. How does it rob rpm?

 

[Blazkowiez]

::High5 Krunch::, I can give several reasons why I dislike those stupid washers but the main reason I dislike them lies within their durability, people adding the washers to reduce vibration is an absurd statement on a typical go-kart, with stamped parts across most yard karts you'd notice about as much on any given wheel with the imperfections. When being forced to space something higher for clearance there are much much better ways to raise the height of your engine than pieces of rubber.

I'll continue to make small remarks without backing myself up specifically to make myself look insane, I feel justified with 5 years work experience standing behind the majority of my comments. Should for some reason I say something completely outlandish or get over my head with a problem I see on here i'll consult Robert who has been working on karts since 1974, produced the first ever two seater concession kart, is directly responsible for the production of the Manco Dingo, and has found production errors literally dozens of times, noted their error, came up with a solution, and contacted the company without any thought of payment.

I will single people out as I hope people will do to me if they sound insane in their comments. Thats what an online community attempting to help each other should do.

Edit: I know this may have sounded conceited, but it was not meant that way at all, just wanted to say where I'm coming from and why I don't always give a reason for why I say something or why my responses will be short, but I assure you they shouldnt sound crazy.

 

[VaultFan92]

my chain had a master link so i got the clutch off but i have no idea how to tell if its bad, my dad says it junk so right now i still plan on getting a new clutch, i put picks up but not sure if anyone can tell anything from them. can anyone tell me certain parts or signs i should look for. also my chain stretched so im going to get a new chain also. the third pic shows the outside of the clutch where the chain rubbed on it and grooved it. the pick of the axle shows how it slide from side to side and rubbed the chain on the clutch, im guessing that was part of my problem. also found out part of the band on the brake is touching the drum and was wondering if anyone knew how i could get it to not touch it? i don't think its enough to do anything but i still dont like how it touches it already. the final pick shows some rubber pieces i found from a long time ago and was wondering if anyone knows what they are?

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

doesnt look horrible, how does the bushing feel?

 

[VaultFan92]

well, what the bushing and where is it? also i didn't look it at it a whole lot since i had no idea what to look for except the grooves im pretty sure isn't supposed to happen.

 

[Blazkowiez]

With clutches I use a few things to determine how they are, when complete I can feel side to side play in the bushing to tell if its worn from lack of lubrication. Next you can see if the teeth on the clutch are heavily worn from misalignment or an excessivly loose chain. On the spring, you must remove it from the clutch to see if it pops straight, if it does not I always compare it to a new clutch spring to see if it has expanded, even a 1/4" expansion is enough to throw off operations of the clutch. On Tuesday I can measure a new spring, I can see by your built in key you have a Comet clutch and not a MaxTorque. I'll check the dimensions and get back to you if you please, but I have a feeling its worn out anyway.

The bushings are motor mount spacers, I personally do not like any spacers that are rubber.

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

well, what the bushing and where is it? also i didn't look it at it a whole lot since i had no idea what to look for except the grooves im pretty sure isn't supposed to happen.

The bushing, which is pressed into the clutch bell. Its like the only brass thing there.

 

[solomon]

Some karts just have poor design and shake with a motor at idle. The rubber spacers will be fine and won't hurt anything. Use them only if you want. I'm sure his engine is fine. You could use loose a few rpm, but if it stops the shake then right on, if they don't stop the shake, take them off, that simple. Also your sprocket sliding around like that is not good. Their should be a bolt on the other side of it to tighten it down, if not, get the welder out.

 

[VaultFan92]

Would the lose of rpm be noticeable? ill take a look at the bronze bushing tomorrow then, do i look for grooves or what? is it bad if the spring doesn't pop straight? when i get a new clutch should i buy a comet or is the max torque the same and it wouldn't matter?

 

[Blazkowiez]

These hard rubber bushings will help nothing. They are there primarily for spacing and wear quickly. If the engine shakes violently, look around for frame breaks or loose bolts, through I believe this may simply be due to your dead clutch or a heavily loose chain.

I cant find anything on the posts regarding his sprocket "sliding". Please find them for me.

 

[Blazkowiez]

Its not excellent if the spring doesn't pop out straight, though not always worn to a point where it will be destroyed, you need to measure it. The clutches are very similar, comet is bankrupt and closed, max torque is still in business and readily available, our shop sells max torque clutches as does over a dozen others online, go find one with good shipping and a good price, just make sure that your bore and tooth count are the same on the new clutch.

 

[VaultFan92]

ill measure the spring tomorrow and post what it is.

 

[EagleTalons]

With the chain off and the clutch off. Does the engine run fine when its on the ground?

 

[solomon]

the pick of the axle shows how it slide from side to side and rubbed the chain on the clutch, im guessing that was part of my problem.

And look at the last pic, shows the axel, and sprocket, and you can see where it has been moving left and right.

 

[vgk]

With the chain off and the clutch off. Does the engine run fine when its on the ground?

Dido
Also on the first picture, flip that pice over and take a pic. then flip it back over and take a picture close up.

 

[VaultFan92]

The first pic is of the sprocket and the screw is gone, anyone know where i can get another or what size i would need? the spring was about 9 1/2", hard to get it measured since it wouldn't stay straight. the bushing had a lot of markings on it. the engine ran fine after it was warmed up and im pretty sure it wasn't shaking as much either. sorry for the quality of the pics but its all i got right now so bear with me.

 

[devino246]

For the sprocket, if you cant find a screw to fit, you could get a couple of split locking collars, and put one on each side.

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Its hard to tell in that pic, but is your spring discolored? that would most definitely be a sign of overheated clutch.

 

[VaultFan92]

yes the spring is a reddish rust color in some spots. does anyone know what type of screw goes into the sprocket?