biodiesel?

[tvaughan]

I have a dodge cummins 04. it has 90k on it,pretty stock ecept for the intake and 4 inch turbo back. What is biodiesel and how would it work? what type do i use and is it worth it?

 

[falcon1]

Biodiesel is diesel made from special plants engineered for the job. Pretty sure you don't need much more than a regular diesel but I could be wrong.

 

[souperman000]

The only thing you might have to worry about is temperature. If it gets to cold...like around 30 or maybe lower (not sure on exact number) the biodiesal may freeze. If you have a problem with cold temps, you need to add a little bit of diesal in with it.

Check out Youtube, there are a bunch of informational vids on there
i have watched this vid before and it explains a lot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJfBKISgkgQ

I think you should put a pair of straight stacks on your truck...has that ever crossed your mind. I think it would look cool.......Just my opinion though

hope this helps

 

[B.M.800]

Im not sure of all the ingredients... I dont know about your truck(cool truck though!) If your really interested, you should join a Cummins forum, they would know. Or atleast search all over it, Im sure someone has asked the same.

My brother has a 92, and 97 Dodge Cummins. He doesnt make "biodiesel" he just filters out the fries and chunks from the veggie oil and dumps it in. Not sure what ratio he runs it though. I believe has had it 50%, 80%... A buddy of his was running 100%...
He has a heated fuel filter too, cold mornings it may not want to start up as quick.
Your engine has more computer than his, so Im not sure what all you would need to do...

I dont know what all the cost of making biodiesel is, but I think in the end(after all the ingredients and whatnot), it was maybe the same, or a littler less the just buying strait diesel. Dont quote me there, Im not sure bout that.

Good luck to ya, let us know how it goes.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Biodiesel is diesel made from special plants engineered for the job. Pretty sure you don't need much more than a regular diesel but I could be wrong.

Yeah- the biodiesel fern. Umm... No.

I have researched this topic at great length- google is your friend. There's a lot of info out there, grab a pencil.

First and foremost, biodiesel is not a specific material per se- it is a generic term used to describe any one of a number of organically-derived diesel substitute fuels. This ranges from mass produced stuff all the way down to pretty much straight veggie oil. Volumes can be written on this topic, but the short version is that there are several solutions out there. Many of them are not financially feasible unless you are dealing with fairly large quantities.

 

[rcarteraz07]

I think you should put a pair of straight stacks on your truck...has that ever crossed your mind. I think it would look cool.......Just my opinion though

hope this helps

Nooo!!! lol.. That's the worst thing ever!! lol

 

[souperman000]

Nooo!!! lol.. That's the worst thing ever!! lol

Why do you say that? My research indicates it helps your mpg a little (not much mind you) and I think they look cool. As I said, thats just me

 

[rcarteraz07]

Why do you say that? My research indicates it helps your mpg a little (not much mind you) and I think they look cool. As I said, thats just me

Because to me they just look Horrible!!

But to each their own!! lol

 

[souperman000]

Because to me they just look Horrible!!

But to each their own!! lol

fair enough...it is settled then

 

[falcon1]

Yeah- the biodiesel fern. Umm... No.

I have researched this topic at great length- google is your friend. There's a lot of info out there, grab a pencil.

First and foremost, biodiesel is not a specific material per se- it is a generic term used to describe any one of a number of organically-derived diesel substitute fuels. This ranges from mass produced stuff all the way down to pretty much straight veggie oil. Volumes can be written on this topic, but the short version is that there are several solutions out there. Many of them are not financially feasible unless you are dealing with fairly large quantities.

Sorry toystory... true fact. Corn can be converted, as can other grains modified for the purpose.

 

[falcon1]

Also, watch this. Special plants for growing... diesel!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIO3ROV2gLw

 

[fowler]

Canola is the most common plant for use

When u see fields covered in tall little yellow flowers it is canola

Europe calls it rape seed

We sell a couple of hundred tonne each year to American biodiesel manufactures
And they pay good prices

It is not easy to make

First most of u will have to find some farmer willing to sell u a few bags
Then u need a refining plant worth a couple of mill

Best idea like top gear did would be to get together in a big group and do it on as bigger scale as
Possible
Some in our area have made biodiesel with their own canola but it destroys any rubber seal it contacts

Also u need the highest quality canola as it is rated by its protein content and it's oil content
Of course u want high oil content

And out of intrest in the pacific islands there is a deisel tree
No **** the stuff in produces inside is biodeisel

 

[falcon1]

Canola is the most common plant for use

When u see fields covered in tall little yellow flowers it is canola

Europe calls it rape seed

We sell a couple of hundred tonne each year to American biodiesel manufactures
And they pay good prices

It is not easy to make

First most of u will have to find some farmer willing to sell u a few bags
Then u need a refining plant worth a couple of mill

Best idea like top gear did would be to get together in a big group and do it on as bigger scale as
Possible
Some in our area have made biodiesel with their own canola but it destroys any rubber seal it contacts

Also u need the highest quality canola as it is rated by its protein content and it's oil content
Of course u want high oil content

And out of intrest in the pacific islands there is a deisel tree
No **** the stuff in produces inside is biodeisel

Yes I have heard of canola being used. Scientists are beginning to specially modify the plants to make them easier to refine. It is an expensive process.

 

[fowler]

maybe in america

they dont like gm in aus

we have just one form of gm canola and it is roundup (strongest hermicide) resistant so we can kil far more weeds and get better yeilds

but it grows big plants not more seed so u end up with slightly better yeilds but severe wear on the swather and the harvester

also unlike naturaly created secies it dosent pass its traits on in its seed so every 2 years or so u have to go and buy more seed insted of growing your own

only a set few people are growing it
our good freinds are trialing it and say its terrible

 

[devino246]

Biodiesel is diesel made from special plants engineered for the job. Pretty sure you don't need much more than a regular diesel but I could be wrong.

There are no 'special plants'. Nearly all our plants are genetically modified in the first place.

Sorry toystory... true fact. Corn can be converted, as can other grains modified for the purpose.

The plants aren't modified except to produce higher yields...which is done to all crops now days.

maybe in america

they dont like gm in aus

we have just one form of gm canola and it is roundup (strongest hermicide) resistant so we can kil far more weeds and get better yeilds

but it grows big plants not more seed so u end up with slightly better yeilds but severe wear on the swather and the harvester

also unlike naturaly created secies it dosent pass its traits on in its seed so every 2 years or so u have to go and buy more seed insted of growing your own

only a set few people are growing it
our good freinds are trialing it and say its terrible

We've got 'Round-up Ready Soybeans" here. Made my Monsanto, of course. Saving any of the seeds from one year to the next can easily get you sued for attempted patent infringement. (It's a BS claim, but they still screw farmers over). My cousin uses Monsanto's 'bean seeds and he has to give all his information to the supplier to be able to buy the seeds. Expensive as he// but it takes alot of work out. Luckily, the patent for the seed is expiring in 2014.

http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/Pages/roundup-ready-patent-expiration.aspx

 

[fowler]

well i think we are allowed to keep the seed for as long as we want
i think thats probs the deal breaker requred to flog it off in aus
it took a long time and there is still no big gm programs
but the genetics fall apart after 4 years and the plant fails to grow correctly

the only one we really need is a water saving crop
we dont really get big weather events just now and again
our farm has rainfall reliable to a few hundred mm a year and we have temperature that only goes from 0 to 48 degrees C in extreme cases
and we are so isolated that weeds and insects dont just fly in from next door
as next door is bush and dessert or the ocean and the antarctic

i think monsanto make all the gm crops
it is a scary thought that if all crops become gm then monsanto will efectivly control the worlds food production

brings to mind doctor evil from austin powers
or a bad 80s action movie of the russian evil dude coming up with a sceme to hold the world to ransome

 

[B man]

You know you can run a diesel off of used cooking oil? just run it through a filter a few times and you can run it. The only down side is theres a 10% loss of fuel efficiency.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

There can be/is a little more to it than that. You have to monitor the consistency and acidity. In addition, cooler climates require tank/line heaters to help keep the oil at a suitable viscosity. But it certainly can be done! Another stumbling block is that a lot of restaurants no longer give away their used oil- quite often they get paid for it.... because now, there's a demand for it.

 

[falcon1]

We've got 'Round-up Ready Soybeans" here. Made my Monsanto, of course. Saving any of the seeds from one year to the next can easily get you sued for attempted patent infringement. (It's a BS claim, but they still screw farmers over). My cousin uses Monsanto's 'bean seeds and he has to give all his information to the supplier to be able to buy the seeds. Expensive as he// but it takes alot of work out. Luckily, the patent for the seed is expiring in 2014.

http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/Pages/roundup-ready-patent-expiration.aspx

I have heard of that. There was a law suit filed by monsanto against a farmer who had monsanto seeds in his field. The seeds had blown in from a nearby farm. And you are right, there are no ''special'' plants, just modified versions of existing ones. My wording was wrong

 

[tvaughan]

The only thing you might have to worry about is temperature. If it gets to cold...like around 30 or maybe lower (not sure on exact number) the biodiesal may freeze. If you have a problem with cold temps, you need to add a little bit of diesal in with it.

Check out Youtube, there are a bunch of informational vids on there
i have watched this vid before and it explains a lot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJfBKISgkgQ

I think you should put a pair of straight stacks on your truck...has that ever crossed your mind. I think it would look cool.......Just my opinion though

hope this helps

Yes it actually has, But there are 2 problems.
I would not want to cut 2 holes into the bed of my truck, and that is SO loud, I have a 4 inch turbo back and thats already loud.
They really do look very cool though