Basic 2 Stroke Performance Enhancements

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Understand how a 2 stroke works before looking into this guide, it isn't here to explain how a 2 stroke works. Have a good fundamental of 2 strokes before attempting any of this.

Compression:

Compression is a RPM killer in 2 strokes, so take that in mind. There are multiple ways of increasing compression:

Milling down the gasket surface on the bottom of the jug/cylinder. Take in mind, you can only mill SO MUCH before you: effectively "drop" the exhaust port, and kill RPM's, and lose torque because you drop the intake excessively. All this is an indirect connection to the removal of the gasket or the grinding down of the gasket area.

If you have a CYLINDER, and a separate head (high performance/more sophisticated 2 strokes), you can swap out domes.

One thing to note, you cannot "hear" knock in 2 strokes. It will be prominient everywhere else, however. Running hot, high EGT's, crappy power, ect. Watch your fuels, compression, and timing.

Timing:


Timing works in harmony with everything else. It affects low end, AND top end. I'll also discuss why MSD is so **** beneficial to these 2smokes.

The flywheel key is where most tuners modify their timing. A general 20-30 degrees BTDC is followed (In Zenoahs at least). The earlier the timing, the "more" the low end. Fuel has to be ~90% burned by the time it reaches TDC.

One thing to note, advancing timing TOO much will result in detonation, not good. Compensate with higher octane fuel, or just don't touch timing at all.

"Rockit" keys (in general, ~10 degrees advanced timing) are out for Zenoah, Chung Yang, and China scooters. Basically, all this does is advance timing for a tad more low end.

BUT, the MORE you advance the timing, the MORE the 2 stroke top end suffers (as in revs). In the last section we mentioned that compression in 2 strokes affect them rather dramatically.

Since the fuel is preignited earlier, it creates HIGHER compression, EARLIER and FASTER than whatever your stock timing was (assuming it was advanced). This in turn, means slightly less revs. Your butt-dyno may not pick up the RPM loss, but it's there, although probably not too prominent.

MSD. What is it? Google it. Don't make me do it for you ;). MSD adjusts timing "on the fly". Why is it great for two strokes? Why it's perfect.

Imagine 30 degrees BTDC, a general mark for 2 stroke timing. As the revolutions from the motors increase, the timing DECREASES. What does this do? Ignites the fuel LATER, and more SLOWLY. Obviously, you won't be getting MAX power after the retarding of the timing starts, but it will be retarded enough to make crazy amounts of revs.

A MSD kit on a Zenoah G23LH starts from ~30 degrees (set with timing light), and actually lets the motor hit up to 20,000 revs (as it is firing 5 degrees ATDC). Brilliant, think about it! Only downside is, you need a live power source. AKA rechargeable batteries.

Pistons:


2 stroke pistons are a rather tricky part to talk about. Multiple designs are made, and for different purposes. Some delibretely have a large slope up to aid the transfer scavenging of the cylinder, some are standard domed pistons.

2 rings increase compression, the second ring acting as a "Secondary defense" mechanism, and reduce blowby. However, these pistons suffer large drag from the friction of two rings.

One ring pistons, albeit a slight compression loss and a possibility of a lower life (depends on material, lubrication, thickness, ect, ect).

Lightening pistons... yes, it does make a difference. HOWEVER, do not lighten the skirts in EXCESS. Not only do you weaken them (and since the skirts prevent side/side movement, it may cave in slightly, and instead of keeping the piston straight in the bore, may whack around the bore and destroy the bore itself - and NiKaSil or industrial chrome plating is NOT cheap).

Balance the piston out afterwards, to ensure equal amounts of material removed. You can lighten with anything from a lathe, to a manual mill, to a dremel.

Another trick is to window the pistons, which I will discuss later.

Crankcase:

People love stuffing. What is that? Decreasing crankcase capacity, and thus increasing how much pressure the air/fuel mixture is under before it is shot up the transfers. This "in theory", is said to increase torque.

People do this with anything from JB weld to other epoxies, sometimes even with added ingredients such as cork or bits of aluminum or steel.

Watch out though, almost all contents of gasoline contain ethanol now. 10-20% generally. JB weld is NOT ethanol soluable... it WILL slowly erode away. I wouldn't be using large chunks of metal or abrasive bits if you decide to stuff (I am completely AGAINST stuffing, but mainly depends on stock crankcase volume).

JB Kwik uses a different formula, nobody has tested that yet, so, dunno. Can probably use some modern gas-tank sealing epoxy to stuff if you wish.

Full circle crankshafts also increase crankcase volume, effectively. Some are only "Half moon" (think about it). Some use plastic stuffers (which, are usually melted and glued in).

Another trick is to replace your bearings and SEALS, with SEALED bearings. Sealed bearings are your standard bearings with two dirt/dust seals on BOTH sides.

Take in mind, these seals were NEVER meant to take pressure, at all, (which the piston creates as it moves to BDC). Keep both seals on, and lube with the right grease.

Keep the ABEC rating above 3, 3 being the absolute minimum. If it does not list the ABEC rating, do not buy it. No china bearings, at ALL. Buy from known Japanese brands, NTN, Koyo, ect.

...Gotta go for now. Will write more on porting, pipes, transfers, dome... blah later. Mebe sum pix
 

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Very nice write up.

People love stuffing. What is that? Increasing crankcase capacity, and thus increasing how much pressure the air/fuel mixture is under before it is shot up the transfers.

Should be Decreasing cankcase capacity.
 

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Compression is a RPM killer in 2 strokes, so take that in mind. There are multiple ways of increasing compression:

Compression kills RPM? So why do I want to increase compression?
Other than that being a bit confusing, great write-up, thanks!
 

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Case stuffing today doesn't produce the gains it did years ago, my old man tells tales of early snowmobile hot rodding(he grew up in the 60s-70s) and he claims that when some of those motors really blew up there was more bondo than metal everywhere.
 

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Oscaryu1, I hope you don't mind if I write a bit about expansion pipes?

Okay, to start off, I just want want to kill the common misconception that back pressure makes 2 strokes go faster, it doesn't, in fact back pressure with give you less power (but slightly better economy), however, back pressure can help an expansion chamber work a bit better but back pressure by itself is a no no. Expansion chambers work by rebounding the pressure from an exhaust pulse back to the exhaust port which (at the right rpm) will push the air fuel mixture that has leaked out the exhaust port back in thus "supercharging" the engine. (Well, its a lot more complicated than that but hey, I'm trying to make it a bit simple here)

This gif shows this well.



A break down of the components of an expansion chamber.



Header.

This is the first part of the chamber that connects to the exhaust port. Usually a strait pipe or slightly conical (2 or 3 degree taper being larger where it connects to the diffuser). The headers cross sectional diameter can be anywhere can be anywhere from the same to 150% that of the exhaust port. About 115% is best for max power at max rpm. Its length should be 6-8 times its diameter for max power at max revs, 11 or 12 for a broader but less powerful power band.

Diffuser or Divergent cone

Probably the most important part, this part creates a vacuum pulse that sucks the air fuel mixture through the transfer ports which helps massively with power. This part also focuses the rebounding pressure wave to push the the air fuel back into the chamber. The angle of the cone is usually between 7 and 11 degrees. A steeper angle will make for a shorter but harder hitting powerband and vice versa for a shallower angle. The area of the circle at the mid section should be 6.25 times that of that at the header end. There are also 2 and 3 stage diffusers which are made up of several cones with short, stepper angled cones at the mid section end and shallower angles ones at the header end.

Mid section or belly

Quite simply, a shorter belly will give you a narrower power band with more power at high rpm. Longer will give you a longer but less powerful power band. (Seeing a theme yet?)

Baffle or convergent cone

Obviously has the role of rebounding the pressure wave. The angles are usually between 14 and 21 degrees, steeper angle equals more power at higher rpm on a short power band, the opposite is also true.

Stinger

The end piece, it's diameter should be 0.58-0.62 times the diameter of the header, the smaller diameter will hold more pressure in the pipe and because waves will travel better in a pressurised environment this makes the pipe work better. How ever, this holds more heat in the pipe and engine, thus making the power band occur at higher rpm.


Basically, a longer expansion chamber with lass aggressive angles will give you a lower, longer and softer hitting power band and a short pipe with aggressive angles will give you short, hard hitting power band at high rpms.

Heat

The heat contained in the pipe affects where the power band hits and how long for greatly. Quite simply colder pipe will move the power band lower and make it occur for longer. Hotter will move it up and also extend it a little. The later 2 stroke GP bikes had water or water and alcohol injection into the expansion chamber to cool it down, this could extend the power band by as much as 2000rpm downwards from its normally occurring rpm, a huge boost in usable power obviously. Expansion chambers can be heat wrapped to extend the power band upwards slightly.

To properly design an expansion chamber you need to use super complex mathematics which I have not included here for reasons of simplicity (this is the "Basic 2 Stroke Performance Enhancements" thread after all). You could build a chamber under the dimension limitations mentioned above and it would most likely provide an increase in power but there are many other things to take into consideration to make a pipe work the best it can. I would suggest downloading a computer program that designs a pipe for you, even though they all seem to miss out on many major variables they will provide the dimensions of a pipe for your engine that will almost certainly work very well.

A professionally designed and constructed expansion chamber can give as much as a 50%+ power gian.

(Sorry for my crap grammar :oops:)

Thanks

Hayden
 

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nice write-ups, guys. toystory, from what i have gathered comp = torque and flow = rpm. say for instance your engine revs good and has a redline of 45mph, but with your current gearing you need a push-off. by increasing the comp, depending on gearing, you will do say 40mph but not need the push. on the other hand, if your take off is good but your topend is too low to win, you could lower your comp and gain the extra revs you need to win. that being said, gearing is a far easier way to go. oscar, the msd you mention, seems as though it should be applicable to 4 strokes as well. granted of course the engine is built well enough to withstand the forces applied @20k rpm.
 

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One thing about stingers, I'm told that the pipe gets a whole lot quieter if you put the stinger on the belly.

Yes, it does, also if the stinger is on the belly the pressure waves can be more intense and rebound more times. It is harder for the exhaust to exit though and apparently they weaken the vacuum pulse slightly. I'd like to see dyno readings from a tail stinger and a belly stinger pipe on the same engine, I presume that because the former is much more common it provides better performance.

Thanks

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Actually Kenny, Jenning said that about the "internal" stinger. He didn't mention (IIRC) the centerbleed pipes. Just an "endbleed" With the bleed inside the pipe. No power loss (in his dyno tests at least), but quite significant decibel lowering O:

Stinger

The end piece, it's diameter should be 0.58-0.62 times the diameter of the header, the smaller diameter will hold more pressure in the pipe and because waves will travel better in a pressurised environment this makes the pipe work better. How ever, this holds more heat in the pipe and engine, thus making the power band occur at higher rpm.

Two strokes <3 backpressure. Get the right amount, and you'll find an increase at every level of... everything. Overdo it, and you'll find the piston heats up enough to actually start burning at the air/fuel mixture beneath it. If you've ever taken apart a overheated 2 stroke, note the black/brown coating beneath the piston. Sure sign of overheating.
 

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Okay, to start off, I just want want to kill the common misconception that back pressure makes 2 strokes go faster, it doesn't, in fact back pressure with give you less power (but slightly better economy), however, back pressure can help an expansion chamber work a bit better but back pressure by itself is a no no. Expansion chambers work by rebounding the pressure from an exhaust pulse back to the exhaust port which (at the right rpm) will push the air fuel mixture that has leaked out the exhaust port back in thus "supercharging" the engine. (Well, its a lot more complicated than that but hey, I'm trying to make it a bit simple here)

orly? I was under the impression 2 strokes love backpressure.

IMO though, it highly depends on the motor in question itself.

Take it like this: Depending on the AMOUNT of air/fuel in the crankcase, and the PRESSURE that is exerted on it when the piston goes to BDC, everything is a factor.

Older "stuffed" cases with dual transfers (total), were rather unefficient at cylinder scavenging. The boost of compression seemed to help it quite a bit (IIRC people stuffed to the point where it actually blew gaskets, lol).

Put that into the factor of backpressure, and you may actually be sending a large amount of air/fuel mixture into the expansion chamber. A small bleed/stinger would prevent too much of it to escape, and push some of it back (as well as the positive pressure that returns).

However, a low pressure burst of fuel may JUST clear the cylinder, and excess backpressure would just put (as with the positive pressure from the convergent cone) exhaust gasses into the combustion chamber, rendering a not-so-great mixture lol.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYnPgrkNbks

"Centerbleed" ADA S1. Obviously not the "fastest" (lol), but gives you an idea that centerbleeds are indeed quieter, and have their benefits.

A clone company also made the ADA S1 in endbleed form... and actually seemed to hit a bit lower, with less of a top end gain.

 

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Nice write up Oscar, But keep in mind alot of this information gathered from go-ped and other less strung 2 strokes wont always apply for high strung sled/LC Dirt Bike motors etc...You can REALLY push a go-ped/chainsaw style motor before it detonates/burns down. Wont take much in a high strung 2 stroke. Another thing is, You can definatly hear detonation in a 2 stroke.

Definitely not in small cc 2 strokes. You said that yourself. Didn't you advance timing in yours like 15-20 degrees before it became REALLY prominent?
 

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Two strokes <3 backpressure. Get the right amount, and you'll find an increase at every level of... everything. Overdo it, and you'll find the piston heats up enough to actually start burning at the air/fuel mixture beneath it. If you've ever taken apart a overheated 2 stroke, note the black/brown coating beneath the piston. Sure sign of overheating.

orly? I was under the impression 2 strokes love backpressure.

IMO though, it highly depends on the motor in question itself.

Take it like this: Depending on the AMOUNT of air/fuel in the crankcase, and the PRESSURE that is exerted on it when the piston goes to BDC, everything is a factor.

Older "stuffed" cases with dual transfers (total), were rather unefficient at cylinder scavenging. The boost of compression seemed to help it quite a bit (IIRC people stuffed to the point where it actually blew gaskets, lol).

Put that into the factor of backpressure, and you may actually be sending a large amount of air/fuel mixture into the expansion chamber. A small bleed/stinger would prevent too much of it to escape, and push some of it back (as well as the positive pressure that returns).

However, a low pressure burst of fuel may JUST clear the cylinder, and excess backpressure would just put (as with the positive pressure from the convergent cone) exhaust gasses into the combustion chamber, rendering a not-so-great mixture lol.

Oscar, you know what I mean ;).

Back pressure by itself (in the form of a restrictive system with no expansion chamber) on a engine not designed for it is BAD, if it was what made 2 strokes "go faster" then we would all just have mufflers with a 5mm outlet....

When some one says "2 strokes need back pressure" or "it won't run with out back pressure" (obviously miss understanding the function of an expansion chamber) do you not get that feeling of wanting to kick them in the nuts really hard?

Other than I agree with you on every thing else.

On an engine with an expansion pipe then back pressure is awesome because the pressure wave will be stronger in a denser medium. Of course you can have to much back pressure, that's why they don't run right (or at all some times) with gummed up mufflers.

Of course there is the case of non sports use two strokes which usually have fairly restrictive exhausts because most people want a quiet engine and a compact/light muffler (light in the case of a whipper snipper or chainsaw anyway) and to compensate for this they generally have fairly high bottom end compression ratios to push the exhaust out. And so, they benefit from the back pressure but only because they are designed to.

All other things being equal the same engine with a different bottom end compression ratio and different porting would most likely make more power with a strait pipe.

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if it was what made 2 strokes go faster then we would all just have mufflers with a 5mm outlet....

When some one says "2 strokes need back pressure" or "it won't run with out back pressure" (obviously miss understanding the function of an expansion chamber) do you not get that feeling of wanting to kick them in the nuts really hard?

Oh it'll run, just crappy overall power (compared to a piped motor).

Again, too much backpressure will just result in overheating O: Check the bottom of the piston for preignition of the fuel below it in the crankcase:)

It doesn't necessarily make the two stroke FASTER, but it does increase torque and power all around.
 
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