Arachnid Build, ... or is it! (Highly Modified)
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Bill CNC
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For the sprocket mount, ... I posted what I was going to make with a sketchup drawing here, ... http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showpost.php?p=110122&postcount=198
For the brakes and outer bearing carriers, ... I was thinking, (a dangerous thing for me to do) Of the steering knuckles, slightly modified. This will let me use the disc brake setup that is already on the steering knuckle.
Now the problem comes into the equation, ... rims and tires for the rear. My Mechanic friend said something about large ATV or Quad rims. Im not sure, ... I haven't got that far in my thinking, ... my brain is starting to hurt.
Im' always up for an idea, ... got any?
For the brakes and outer bearing carriers, ... I was thinking, (a dangerous thing for me to do) Of the steering knuckles, slightly modified. This will let me use the disc brake setup that is already on the steering knuckle.
Now the problem comes into the equation, ... rims and tires for the rear. My Mechanic friend said something about large ATV or Quad rims. Im not sure, ... I haven't got that far in my thinking, ... my brain is starting to hurt.
Im' always up for an idea, ... got any?
Bill CNC
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Heavy, ... I,m guessing here, but one of the setups I pulled but couldn't find a match was from a corolla and it was about 25-30 pounds. That included the; ... Knuckle, rotor, caliper, pads brake line and the bearing.
In other words, I unbolted the tire, strut, stabilizer bar, steering rod, the ball joint and unscrewed the brake line and slid the whole assembly off the CV/Halfchaft and everything was in my hand in one complete unit.
In other words, I unbolted the tire, strut, stabilizer bar, steering rod, the ball joint and unscrewed the brake line and slid the whole assembly off the CV/Halfchaft and everything was in my hand in one complete unit.
r97
Measure twice cut once
bill i though we went over the CORRECT size tire, right?? lol
Bill CNC
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Yes, we did, ... but I measured and I just cant get one in the bed of my F-150. 
r97
Measure twice cut once
darn, looks like youl either have to break another cheap u-hual trailer or downgrade to 10ft dia :toetap05:, lol
Bill CNC
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I just thought of something. My Geo has 23 splines on the outer end. I checked with O'reilly auto parts web site and they confirm the outer spline count. I even checked the years when they had 12" rims and they use the same CV/Halfshafts. They had a few of those at the junk yard!!!!
Apparently nobody makes ATV tires and rims in 13", ... but they do for 12", ... $$. And I do belive they have a bolt pattern of 4x100, another plus!
Boy, ... what I have I got myself into now.
Does anyone know if the splines are the same between Japanese auto makers? Are the shaft sized by the splines?
I hope all 23 spline shafts are all the same size in diameter.
r97
Measure twice cut once
it depends on the pitch, (if splines even differ in pitch, i would bet they do)
Bill CNC
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Sometimes the Kart gods are looking out for me, ... and sometimes, their on vacation.
I woke up today with a massive toothache and I called in to work to tell them I'm not going to be their today. Just to far to drive when your thinking off getting out a pair of pliers and taking care of it yourself.
Anyhow, ... After some medication to get me feeling loopy, ... I was standing in the driveway looking at my 97 Geo. My mind was confused as to what to think about, ... Geo or the toothache. Seems the medication was making me think about the Geo.
Hell, ... I had a noise starting to come from the right front corner, so I jacked the car up to see what all the commotion was about. It was an inner fender coming loose in the front and it was rubbing the tide. Fixed it!
Well hell, ... since I have the car up on the Jack, ... No since in wasting a good lift, ... I pulled the tire to look at the steering knuckle and rotor assembly.
Man that looks smaller than the Tercel assembly. I wonder if it wi.......
I just had to, ... I was already their.
I pulled the ball joint bolt, the axle bolt, and the stabilizer bar joint then steeped on the A-arm and popped it out. After sliding the CV/Halfchaft out, ... I pushed in the Tercel CV/Halfshaft and it slid right on in their like it was meant to be.
Now will it be a perfect fit?
Not quite, ... I need to possibly make a spacer to make up the difference on the CV/Halfshaft end that the Steering knuckle will have, .. the diameter on the Tercel is smaller at the Knuckles opening.
Now comes the hard part, ... Can I get to the junk yard today without passing out from the freaking toothache. Maybe I can call one of my kids to see if they can go if I cant.
Anyhow, ... here is a few pictures of my Geo's wheel assembly. I couldnt get the CV/Halfshaft in from the rear, so I pushed it in from the front.
I woke up today with a massive toothache and I called in to work to tell them I'm not going to be their today. Just to far to drive when your thinking off getting out a pair of pliers and taking care of it yourself.
Anyhow, ... After some medication to get me feeling loopy, ... I was standing in the driveway looking at my 97 Geo. My mind was confused as to what to think about, ... Geo or the toothache. Seems the medication was making me think about the Geo.
Hell, ... I had a noise starting to come from the right front corner, so I jacked the car up to see what all the commotion was about. It was an inner fender coming loose in the front and it was rubbing the tide. Fixed it!
Well hell, ... since I have the car up on the Jack, ... No since in wasting a good lift,
... I pulled the tire to look at the steering knuckle and rotor assembly.Man that looks smaller than the Tercel assembly. I wonder if it wi.......
I just had to, ... I was already their.
I pulled the ball joint bolt, the axle bolt, and the stabilizer bar joint then steeped on the A-arm and popped it out. After sliding the CV/Halfchaft out, ... I pushed in the Tercel CV/Halfshaft and it slid right on in their like it was meant to be.
Now will it be a perfect fit?
Not quite, ... I need to possibly make a spacer to make up the difference on the CV/Halfshaft end that the Steering knuckle will have, .. the diameter on the Tercel is smaller at the Knuckles opening.
Now comes the hard part, ... Can I get to the junk yard today without passing out from the freaking toothache. Maybe I can call one of my kids to see if they can go if I cant.
Anyhow, ... here is a few pictures of my Geo's wheel assembly. I couldnt get the CV/Halfshaft in from the rear, so I pushed it in from the front.
Bill CNC
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Here is the difference of the wheel side ends of the CV/halfshafts.
The Steering knuckle of the Geo has an opening of 63mm and the Tercel has an opening of 51mm. So it looks like I can make a spacer on the lathe to take up 12mm space.
Question;
Does anyone know if those stamped gold dust shields are structural or can they be removed/ground down?
Tercel
Geo
The Steering knuckle of the Geo has an opening of 63mm and the Tercel has an opening of 51mm. So it looks like I can make a spacer on the lathe to take up 12mm space.
Question;
Does anyone know if those stamped gold dust shields are structural or can they be removed/ground down?
Tercel
Geo
r97
Measure twice cut once
cool
Bill CNC
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Kaaaaching!
Well I was able to convince my oldest son to go with me to the junk yard just in case I was to loopy to drive because of this stupid toothache. Anyhow, ... we found a 94 Geo metro and it had the 12" wheels on it, ... BINGO!
20 minutes later, ... and the wallet $88.00 lighter, ...
Theo, ... 20 pounds each!
Well I was able to convince my oldest son to go with me to the junk yard just in case I was to loopy to drive because of this stupid toothache. Anyhow, ... we found a 94 Geo metro and it had the 12" wheels on it, ... BINGO!
20 minutes later, ... and the wallet $88.00 lighter, ...
Theo, ... 20 pounds each!
The_Machine
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do those 207-35 flange bearings have set screws that lock the bearings from pivoting?
Bill CNC
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Now before we get all giddy, ... there are a couple of issues.
1). The shafts spline in just fine, ... but the dust covers are totally different to the point that these have to be removed. A couple of whack's with a hammer and screw driver, ... see yeah!
2). It still didn't want to seat all the way, so I took the grinder to it.
Now that she fits in there and seats down just fine, another problem has popped up. The spline shaft isn't as long as the Geo's, ... but their is still 5 complete threads on there grabbing good. We will have to see whats going to happen here still.
1). The shafts spline in just fine, ... but the dust covers are totally different to the point that these have to be removed. A couple of whack's with a hammer and screw driver, ... see yeah!
2). It still didn't want to seat all the way, so I took the grinder to it.
Now that she fits in there and seats down just fine, another problem has popped up. The spline shaft isn't as long as the Geo's, ... but their is still 5 complete threads on there grabbing good. We will have to see whats going to happen here still.
Bill CNC
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They lock the bearing onto the shaft I believe.
Bill CNC
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Now comes the exiting part, ... 11.25" to clear the calipers so 12" ATV rims can be used on the rear now.
BUT, ... you didn't think I would get off that easy did you, ... The bolt pattern is not 4x4, ... so I will more than likely have to drill new lug holes on the rims.
BUT, ... you didn't think I would get off that easy did you, ... The bolt pattern is not 4x4, ... so I will more than likely have to drill new lug holes on the rims.
Bill CNC
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Now is that some travel, ... or what?
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