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thaipham25

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I just bought a bx1 100b welding machine from ebay to tach on my exhaust. This is also my first time welding. I kinda figured that if i teach my self i can build more things for my cart instead of buying it and save mulla. So i grounded the pipe and put on a 16/32 rod qnd turn up the juice full blast. When i touch the pipe all i get is one spark. What am i doing wrong that i cant get enough heat to weld. Am i suppose to wait for it to charge up or am i angling wrong?

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All i get is one spark and it sticks do i yank it off. By the time I'm done i can play connect the dots. So many qnd how cqn u see under the helmet. You guy deserve the big bucks you make cuz thid is hard as phuc
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Well. ....I count this as progress.....you have now grazed the tip of the iceberg and are starting to realize what you don't know......

I will defer to the people that know more than me to answer this..... .
 

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Well it kinda like riding a bike, you just get on and go...
Well it's kinda hard to describe. I'd say look at YouTube, look there for pointers.

Easiest way is describing it like striking a match in the dark. Touch, drag and lift... Lift to 1/8" or so and move indirection of weld in a C shape pattern. All in the same breath..
Like I said look at the tube and check back with us later.

Oh, I think that is not a .5"rod but a 1/16"????
 

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And make sure that helmet is down. Even just that initial arc can burn your eyes, trust me it feels like needles stabbing the heck out them.
I use a self darkening helmet so i dont try to get my hand in place then have to flip down helmet.
Definately watch vids on how to arc weld.
 

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:iagree:...Someday I may graduate to a non-auto darkening helmet....but for now .....I'll settle just for not flipping out....later I'll worry about flipping down......

Thank the Lord for auto darkening helmets..........
 

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If you really want to learn, get some help/training. This is not a skill that can be learned from a forum. Many technical schools offer nite courses in basic welding at reasonable prices. You may even find a skilled welder in your area who might be willing to help a bit. UTube can help a little, but be aware that ANY competent welder has spent many hours, days, weeks and months practicing. This is a skill that requires frequent use just to stay in practice. Yes, the good ones earn their pay, often in less than comfortable environments.
 

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Thank the Lord for auto darkening helmets..........

BEST... INVENTION... EVER! My welding was "ok", then I bought an auto helmet, the difference was like (excuse the pun) night & day...

There's some great advice above, if you can follow it...

One thing that's not mentioned, you should never learn to welding on a job, get the feel of the welder & the action on a piece of scrap; better you mess up a piece of scrap that the job...

I can use MIG, stick, oxy/acet, probably TIG if I had the opportunity &, IMO, stick is one of the hardest to master...

If you want my honest opinion, ditch the stick & get yourself a wire feed unit...
 

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Harbor Fright offers an inexpensive auto darkening helmet that actually works pretty well. It WILL make learning much easier. A chip hammer, a stiff wire brush and a hand held grinder are also very useful tools. Be aware that there are many types of rods available for many types of metals and techniques. I'd second the wire feed welder, especially one that uses gas (mig). Far less spat, much cleaner welds, and quite a bit easier to learn - but you will get what you pay for.

One other bit of advice: Get your self and your work in a comfortable position before starting any kind of weld. Attempting vertical up while under the kart at this point will drive you nuts.
 

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Harbor Fright offers an inexpensive auto darkening helmet that actually works pretty well. It WILL make learning much easier. A chip hammer, a stiff wire brush and a hand held grinder are also very useful tools. Be aware that there are many types of rods available for many types of metals and techniques. I'd second the wire feed welder, especially one that uses gas (mig). Far less spat, much cleaner welds, and quite a bit easier to learn - but you will get what you pay for.

One other bit of advice: Get your self and your work in a comfortable position before starting any kind of weld. Attempting vertical up while under the kart at this point will drive you nuts.

Drive???????.........or burn????????
 

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I've actually Taken night classes for pipe fitting and now a certified Fitter but all they do is throw books at us. Out of the year and half of going to school we had bout 5 days of hands on. Ill keep at it until i learn. Ill post pic of my exhast tomorrow and hopeful the after pic in a week

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Harbor Fright offers an inexpensive auto darkening helmet that actually works pretty well. It WILL make learning much easier. A chip hammer, a stiff wire brush and a hand held grinder are also very useful tools. Be aware that there are many types of rods available for many types of metals and techniques. I'd second the wire feed welder, especially one that uses gas (mig). Far less spat, much cleaner welds, and quite a bit easier to learn - but you will get what you pay for.

One other bit of advice: Get your self and your work in a comfortable position before starting any kind of weld. Attempting vertical up while under the kart at this point will drive you nuts.

Will look into that fo sho

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I taught myself how to stick weld. It took a while, and I practiced on scrap before I tried to weld anything. To get the spark going, you need to strike it against the metal, or drag it across until the spark gets going and the rod tip gets nice and hot. You then have to hold it just above the metal so that it doesnt stick. I find that if it does stick, I have to pull it off real fast while it is stil hot, otherwise it sticks there and trying to get it off afterwards just pulls the flux off the rod and you cannot use it anymore
 

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That's the problem. I just can't get it going but if i do i know ill be good at welding bc i heard all u really have to do is make little c's movement or i could be wrong

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I taught myself how to stick weld. It took a while, and I practiced on scrap before I tried to weld anything. To get the spark going, you need to strike it against the metal, or drag it across until the spark gets going and the rod tip gets nice and hot. You then have to hold it just above the metal so that it doesnt stick. I find that if it does stick, I have to pull it off real fast while it is stil hot, otherwise it sticks there and trying to get it off afterwards just pulls the flux off the rod and you cannot use it anymore

That's really awsome that you tought yourself. I can't wait to do the same. Who knows, i might make a career from this once i learn. The possiblility are endless

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This exhaust is off my 17.5hp briggs vertical shaft engine. I'm using this one until the other one gets welded. ( my next racing mower. project)

The one I'm working on. New pipes from affordable karts and muffler is china brand. Its pretty smooth and sounds great.
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When you start stick welding for the first time, your electrode will stick to the metal. It is gonna happen. When I first learned to stick weld, it would piss me off so much because of sticking. You just have to do is keep practicing your welding. You will get the hang of it and not have the electrode stick anymore.

As a teenager, I first learned to gas weld with a torch from my father (never mastered it like he did), then moved on to his Lincoln stick welder. Have not done either in over twenty years, now just use a Mig or Tig welder. My advise is, if you foresee yourself using a welder frequently, then put down the stick and get a Mig welder. Your learning curve will be much shorter, and produce better work. If you don't do much, than keep practicing as you get efficient soon enough.

My next advise is if you eventually buy, get the highest quality your budget will allow! (save up!) My Clark Mig works great, but I went cheap on the Tig welder and I'm always either fighting it or repairing it (currently it's the foot peddle).

As mention, an auto darkening helmet is a must! I don't understand how I did it in the past... it's that much of a difference! Some people like flux-wire, I'm not a fan and only use gas. When you first learn, weld scraps of your metal (gauge sample) to dial in your amp and/or wire feed. It sucks to melt through your good piece.

I'm teaching my 12 year old to weld this summer. I won't even bother to teach him to stick weld. Starting him on the Mig. He has done it 5-6 times, and is starting to lay a good row of bead...
 

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Over 25 years of auto body/frame repair. and I used Mig all the way. I have done some torch welding with coat hangers,, and lead repairs,, on classic cars. I've never done stick welding thou. I bought a 110V Millermatic 130 model and can to up to 1/4 in thick with it. If I need more,, then I would use the shop's 220 miller welder.as a end result.
Just think of a stack of nickles,, laid down on there side. Now that's a nice weld!
 

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What part of Texas are you from? If you live close to one of us, you could probably get that exhaust welded up for free and get a hands on welding lesson at the same time..... That's why I have 3 hoods. 1 auto dark for me with adjustable shade, and 2 regular hoods with #9 &#10 shaded lenses, for anyone who wants to watch or try. My now 12 year old son, tried mig for the first time, 2 summers ago. He laid down 2 great beads, then got a "jumper" into his glove.... Last time he tried it...... :mad:
 
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