5hp tecumseh help

[powerstrokekid]

I just picked up another kart project and the 5 hp tecumseh that came on it is missing the entire air cleaner assembly. Where can I pick one of these up at a descent price? also needs a muffler. I will try to get picks up asap. It is a tecumseh 5hp enduro engine.

 

[powerstrokekid]

Here's some pics of the cart and engine. Update on the engine it is a tecumseh power sport not an enduro

Kart

Carb (Missing air cleaner assembly)

Exhaust exit (missing muffler)

Engine

 

[powerstrokekid]

Anyone at all?? Also won't start at all unless i use starting fluid. and when it dies it spits oil and gas out the carb. Any suggestions?

 

[r_chez_08]

Clean the carburettor, and check the oil level, may be too high.
Rob

 

[Blazkowiez]

You could have a bad plug, the engine could be out of time, the oil could be filled too high.

 

[Russ2251]

There is an air cleaner that may work for you.
It is not the original but might be ok.
TEC730127
Cost is about $20 - $25.

 

[Cam]

You could have a bit of oil in the cylinder, how long has it been sitting? along with the other things suggested, you could take the plug out, throw some starting fluid/crc/wd40 down there and give it a whirl with the plug out to clean the combustion chamber.

 

[powerstrokekid]

Cam, the guy I got it from said it sat for about 3 months. But it ran just fine at his house, and as soon as I got it home it's giving me problems. Oil Level is fine and i have cleaned the carb 3 times now. would the missing muffler or air cleaner affect this at all? or would i be better off finding another motor for it?

 

[Cam]

You havn't changed anything? bit odd, how does it run when you spray the starting fluid down it? how did you get it home, trailer? maybe a bit of oil has got up into the cyl when you hit a bump? not sure about that though, try getting a bit of tape and covering the carburettor end about 1/2 covered, to act as a restriction, or choke.

 

[slideways]

Did you hear it run at his house or did he just say it ran? That motor looks like a basket case. It appears to also be missing the little "twisted staple" looking linkage that goes from the governor arm to the butterfly. These motors DO NOT run well with no exhaust. I tried it as a kid running them on the Manco's we raced around.

I may have the parts you need but i'd rather see you go get a $99 clone that is ready to go so you can actually enjoy the thing sooner than trying to get the Tec stumbling and running. Keep in mind that Tecumseh is out of business so parts are getting tougher and tougher to find.

 

[powerstrokekid]

slideways, I did physically see it run at his house. and I had no idea Tecumseh went out of business or I never would have gotten it. Where can i get a $99 clone at? I looked at the engines from northern tool and equipment and the cheapest the have is $179. This is looking to be more of a disaster than something I'm gonna be able to use. Because I have no $ whatsoever. I have a 5hp B&S off an old tiller in my basement that runs great. But the output shaft is just a bit shorter than this one.

 

[Cam]

Did you attempt any of the things others, and i posted?

 

[Doc Sprocket]

I have a 5hp B&S off an old tiller in my basement that runs great. But the output shaft is just a bit shorter than this one.

That really shouldn't be a problem. Put it on, and if you run into difficulty, let us know.

 

[powerstrokekid]

Cam, it runs pretty good no smoke or anything on the starting fluid, yes I did try your tape method it didn't change anything. I know the plug is good I checked it.

Toystory, I will try it tomorrow, I tried this engine on my first cart but I couldn't find a bolt long enough to hold the clutch onto the shaft. We are expecting 8-12" of snow tomorrow so I won't be able to go get anything I need. I will keep looking for a bolt maybe I can luck up. Also I'm not for sure about the throttle cable as this engine came off a tiller the throttle cable is different from one on a kart.

 

[Cam]

Ok thanks man, was just making sure, for a last ditch effort if you don't have any thing else to do, and if you havn't done it already have a fiddle with the mixture screws, open em a few turns up, will run rich if it does run, but we will tackle that problem when it gets here, other than that id go for the other engine, sounds like its a better engine.

Quick Q, is the carb getting fuel in the bowl?

Sorry i just hate giving up on stuff like this

 

[powerstrokekid]

Cam, yea i know what you mean about giving up, i hate doing that. This particular tecumseh has the non adjustable carb on it (except the idle). It is getting fuel into the bowl, so I am kinda stumped on this one. I am working on putting the other engine on as we speak though so maybe it will work a little better. I just have to find a longer bolt to work with the shorter output shaft to hold the clutch on.

 

[slideways]

Did you actually take the carb off and blow air through all the passages and the main jet plug in the bowl? It should run with fresh gas after that but not well without that muffler on there. You also have to put the screws in the holes that hold the air cleaner on. One of them is supposedly a part of the idle circuit and it controls how the primer bulb works.

 

[Cam]

If you jab the primer, it should spray petrol out the main jet, which is visable, by the way what is that red thing in the middle of the carburettor? looks like the main jet just red...

You may need to prick the main jet with a fine wire or pin to un clog it, could it be that your intake manifold is leaking?

again, sorry for the persistance

 

[Blazkowiez]

If nobody else has touched on this, don't attempt to run a clutch with a stubby shaft engine, the briggs you're mentioning may have a shaft thats shorter than 2 inches. Its more likely your briggs has a 2 1/2"+ shaft but if it does have a stubby 1" shaft do not use this for the project.

 

[powerstrokekid]

Blazkowiez, you say to not run my Brigss if it is shorter than 2 inches. The shaft on this particular briggs is a bout 1 1/4 inches long is this to short? If so why? as long as the clutch key has plenty of room on the shaft couldn't I just put a longer bolt in the shaft to keep the clutch steady? Sorry bout all the ?'s but I am still very green on Karts.