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does the new preditor have enough power for an off road cart with big atv tires and a adult if i use a tourque converter ?
i am trying to get some pics soon i dont know what brand kart i have so i am trying to identify it but i need to know will that engine pull alot of power i dont need to go over 35mph
 

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does the 420cc predito have enough power for a offroad cart with an adult if i use a tourqe converter ?not looking for morte than 35mph just want power to have alot of fun
 

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yeah it will do. That is atleast 13hp.
You will want a comet 40 series or similar.
I have a 6.5hp on my kart with me (10st) and a 40 series, geared for a similar speed @3600rpm.
What sort of kart?
 

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i have no idea its buggy sttle with a full roll cage and big atv tire full suspension trying to get pics today
 

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True, however if you look at the honda gx390 horsepower curve, which is what the predator is based off, you can see that the HP is still increasing:
http://engines.honda.com/models/model-detail/gx390#performance.
Not a lot though. If you removed the governor and installed an aftermarket air filter and exhuast, you would get a noticable torque increase at higher RPM.

Yes, there is a small amount WITHOUT racing air filter and pipe. WITH a racing air filter and pipe well then up goes the hp.
 

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Removal will give more speed not more torque.
You have that backwards
HP= Torque x RPM / 5252.1
Therefore an increase in theoretical RPM will result in a theoretical increase in HP none of which translates directly into more speed.
Gearing at this point will net more or less speed.
Proper gearing + sustainable usable RPM and torque to the ground = more speed.
Peak RPM is not a factor because 85% of the time you are not running WOT.
 

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Redundant threads merged.

From a practical perspective- increased RPM does equal increased maximum road speed- assuming the gearing is sufficient. When it all comes down to it, one rotation of the crankshaft does indeed equal a certain distance travelled. Rotate faster, travel the distance faster. The caveat? If you're geared too high, you may not have sufficient power in reserve to spin the engine up any higher under load.

If all things are pretty much as they should be, the right increase in RPM combined with appropriate regearing will increase BOTH maximum speed, AND acceleration from a standstill*. Why, because after a gov removal a slightly higher gear reduction should be employed. This will unload the engine a bit and allow it to spin faster under load. At the same time, you have in fact geared down a bit and therefor acceleration improves.

Case study- you're cruising down the highway in 5th in your car. Step on the throttle- not much there. Now, downshift into 4th and hammer- more pep, right? You've unloaded the engine and allowed in to spin faster, easier. If you'd like to keep experimenting, you will also notice it's preferable to start in a lower gear...

Since our industrial engines only have one speed (or one limited range with a CVT) we have to find the best balance of gearing and RPM to maximize performance.

You will also notice I avoided the words "torque" and "horsepower". For our purposes, these words do little more than provide benchmarks. By doing things like regearing or playing with the engine RPM, we may be slightly altering these numbers- but to little effect. Speed, we can measure. Acceleration is also quantifiable. Who here is measuring torque at the wheel, where it really makes a difference (via- YEP- gearing)?

*and yes, I DID prove this with my own machine.
 
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