3.5hp briggs

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bkrider113

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hey guys I have seen many camshafts for briggs engines but none for the little 3.5 hp that i have.... I am curious if the 5 hp camshaft will fit the 3.5hp. I have a custom exhaust/intake no gov all easy things are done and i dont want to try porting becuase i ahve no experience with this..... Any ideas???
 

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bk:

post your serial numbers/info on the motor. let me see some pictures too.

i also have a briggs 3.5 hp on one of my karts..id say roughly im getting 5hp out of it now with some simple work done to it.

i can help you with a few small things as much as possible.

and no, i have a old 5.5 briggs, the camshaft wouldnt fit on, its pysically larger, the whole thing. it didnt work for me.
 

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ok awesome... the kart is at my buddys house ill be there this weekend to take some pics and serial numbers. What did you do to your briggs????
 

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well first of all i did some routine maitenence to it since i bought it at a goodwill outlet store. (second hand stuff) it didnt run, it was an edger for 35 bucks

what i did first:

changed the oil
took off the carb and cleaned it with carb cleaner
cleaned gas tank out (it was empty but slightly dirty)
changed spark plug
checked the gaskets, make sure none were ripped, etc

thats just routine.

then i remove the exhaust and fit some straight pipe into it, 12 inches long. if you dont know the size take your stock exhaust in and explain to the guy at home depot, he can help you. mine was 1/2 i think (if i can remember)

port and polish the heads
this is where the carb bolts to the head..its smooth for the intake..just polish it up slightly with a dremel and some sandpaper. (harbor freight has them for 8 bucks)
then hit the exhaust the same way, its threaded so dont mess up the threads

removed the valves so you can seat them better
when you have the carb off, etc..youll see a small rectangular plate with two screws, remove them. inside youll see springs, you remove the retainers off the springs and the valves will come out. (you might not know how to do this, if not i can help you)
pull the valves out, get some valve lapping compound at your hardware store and a valve lapper (at harbor freight when your there getting your dremel)..looks like a suction cup on a stick. take your valve out and put a little compound around the edges, stick the valve in, attach the lapper (suction cup thingie) and spin it for a good 4 minutes or so..
do it to both.

since you have the springs out already, replace them with 18lb ones if possible (i did)

shave the eyebrows off the head with your dremel..

remove governor inside the crankcase if thats how yuors is equipped, not all have them on the inside like alot of pictures show.

hmm..im thinking this was close to it..not sure.

all this stuff including tools was around 25 bucks. or less. compound, springs, tools, etc.

if you have any questions which im sure you do..feel free to ask
 

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Great write up! I have one of these motors, but am not sure if it is worth rebuilding. You may have changed my mind on that! I already have most of what I need except maybe the valve lapper. So here are a couple of questions for you on a briggs 3.5hp.

The gas tank that the carb sits on top of is completely rusted out. Where can I get one? Never seen one for sale so I am thinking I need to find a parts motor, but maybe not.

When you do all of the head work are you replacing the head gasket or can you reuse it if its in good shape?

Do you happen to know the torque spec for the head bolts on that motor. I have the briggs flatty repair manual, just not sure if it covers the 3.5hp.

My exhaust bolts on with 2 bolts. What you described is a screw in style exhaust. I want a cool sounding exhaust, any suggestions?

When lapping the valves are you saying that you put the removed valve back in the engine where it was with lapping compound on it and then use the HF lapping tool to spin it in the engine? basically you are mating the two pieces togther nice and tight?
 

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Moetrout-

Check ebay for a new tank.

Replacing the head gasket is a good idea, there cheap.

To make a header for your exhaust, you either need to make a 2 bolt flange and weld a pipe to it, or cut the flange off your stock exhaust and weld a pipe to that.

thats pretty much it for valve lapping, what your doing is re-surfacing the seats so they seal well.
 

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moetrout: gas tank, go to your local lawnmower repair shop. look up in the yellowpages/internet whatever, lawnmower repair, stihl dealer, briggs and stratton dealer..etc, youll find one. actually..i have three extra gas tanks..i can sell you one for real cheap. pm me. i mean real cheap they are just taking up space lol.

i did replace the head gasket..when i took mine off half of it was attatched to the head, the other half was attatched to the cover..i just took a small screwdriver and scraped it off..then i used my shopvac to make sure i didnt leave any particles left around. i think it was like..$2.50

bolt on exhaust..yeah some of the heads do that, but if you actually look and take out the two bolts, alot of times they are threaded still. you just happen to have the bolt on exhaust. so actually remove your exhaust and look, hopefully its threaded. if not, you need to weld the flange off your old exhaust onto your straight pipe.

when your lapping the valves, you remove the spring as described above, and the valve will come out. remove the valve and put a small amount of lapping compound (found at hardware/auto stores for around 3.50) put the valve back in (the correct valve, youll notice one is bigger than the other) and attatch the suction cup to the top of the valve. then spin it with two hands pushing down at the same time. like you were starting a fire, the old indian way or whatever.

this is the tool
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95121

and to be quite honest, lapping valves, port and polishing, changing oil, cleaning carb, replacing gaskets if needed, changing exhaust, shaving eyebrows..really dosent take that long at all. and to me, its fun

thats the most you can basically do without buying specialty parts like new cams, etc.

dont forget, pm for that gas tank
 

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3.5beast

is it possible to turbo the 3.5 bNs
bk:

post your serial numbers/info on the motor. let me see some pictures too.

i also have a briggs 3.5 hp on one of my karts..id say roughly im getting 5hp out of it now with some simple work done to it.

i can help you with a few small things as much as possible.

and no, i have a old 5.5 briggs, the camshaft wouldnt fit on, its pysically larger, the whole thing. it didnt work for me.
 

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whats the point of turboing anything
anyone who did it really says when its all done it doesnt add anymore noticable power.
 
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