2017 ideas

[bob58o]

This will be my idea board for my next project...

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Murray Shift on the Go Riding Mower
manual shift peerless transaxle, shift while moving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgwFjq8nOXo

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Shifting on the go in riding mower mudder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y86nfhI0cs

 

[chancer]

Checkout "metal in motion" on u tube for more mower mods.

I just wanna get to Jan 20, 2017

 

[bob58o]

Checkout "metal in motion" on u tube for more mower mods.

I just wanna get to Jan 20, 2017

I don't think I found it.

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Peerless 700- race prep and stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6S24udqVYM

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Output torque 20 lb-ft / 27.12 Nm
Transmission/Transaxle housing Die Cast Aluminum
Output shaft diameter Customer/Application Specific
Output shaft lengths and ends 9-Tooth Splined or 16-Tooth Serrations
Input shaft diameter 0.625 inch / 15.88 mm
Transmission Forward Speeds 3
Transmission Reverse Speeds 1
Shift keys 2, 4
Neutral start switch Yes
Input speed (maximum) 2400 rpm
Input bearings Needle bearings
Mounting Customer/Application Specific
Mounting direction Customer/Application Specific
Weight 18 lbs / 8.16 kg
Lubrication Grease filled from the factory.
Type of shift Mechanical Shift, non-synchronized.
Sprocket type Consult factory
Gear ratio (1) 9.2:1
Gear ratio (2) 7:1
Gear ratio (3) 6.4:1
Gear ratio (4) 5.3:1
Gear ratio (5) 4.5:1
Gear ratio (6) 3:1
Sintered metal gears Yes
Steel gears Yes
Machined for neutral start switch Yes

 

[bob58o]

OK a more complete package with carb and stuff for $600 shipped

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIFAN-200CC...CLE-BIKE-ATV-GO-KART-V-EN25-SET-/160982683885
CONDITION: BRAND NEW

Brand new 200cc LIFAN High Performance Engine, 4 stroke, 5 speed manual, air-cooled, electric start/kick start, single-cylinder, CDI ignition.
Ready to bolt on.

This package comes with Lifan 200cc engine, kick start, shifter, wiring harness, carburetor, CDI, voltage regulator, ignition coil, relay, and etc.
SPECS:

Type: 1-cylinder, 4-stroke, OHV air-cooled by forced
Bore x Stroke: 63.5mm x 62.2mm
Displacement: 197.0ml
Type: single cylinder, 4-stroke, air-cooled by forced
Bore x Stroke: 63.5mm x 62.2mm
Displacement: 197.0ml
Compression ratio: 9.0 : 1
Max. HP: 16.0 HP @ 8,500 rpm
11.0708 ft lbs @ 7,000 rpm
Idle: 1,500 RPM
Oil capacity: 8L (10w-30)
Start Mode: electric/kick
Engine Measurements: 19.6" x 15.7" x 13.8"
Weight: 69 pounds
Clutch: Manual
Gears: 5 speed

Start Mode: electric/kick
Engine Measurements: 19.6" x 15.7" x 13.8"

Ratios: 2.769/1.882/1.400/1.130/0.960
Magneto: Permanent magnetic
Voltage: 12 Volt
Accessories Power: Lights and other accessories

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I don't get what makes this 197ml/cc engine 16HP and the 212cc Predator only 6.5HP???
Is it the Cam? Carb? Stroke? Compression? Valves?

All of the above?

 

[bob58o]

I've been thinking about this for some time.

My plan has been decided but will probably change 100 times.

The buggy will get TWO new 212cc Predators with Two 30 series Torque Converters!
6:1 gearing and 18.5" Tires should give me plenty of low and top end.

2 x HF #60363 Hemi Predator 212cc = $220-$265
2 x 30 Series Torque Converters = $160
1 x #41 60T Sprocket / Hub = $40

This may make the alternator a challenge.
The axle may have two sprockets, brake rotor, alt pulley...???

This is what I want. Now I need to find something to do with the engine I am about to finish. Hopefully I don't blow it up in the next 12 months.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Max. HP: 16.0 HP @ 8,500 rpm
11.0708 ft lbs @ 7,000 rpm

[/COLOR]I don't get what makes this 197ml/cc engine 16HP and the 212cc Predator only 6.5HP???
Is it the Cam? Carb? Stroke? Compression? Valves?

All of the above?

Double the RPM of the 212 probably helps a great deal. Also, 2 hp of it is probably BS lol.

 

[bob58o]

Double the RPM of the 212 probably helps a great deal. Also, 2 hp of it is probably BS lol.

Ok I get that, but why does it turn at 8k.
Same things you'd do to a normal clone to get 8k?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Ok I get that, but why does it turn at 8k.
Same things you'd do to a normal clone to get 8k?

I'm just guessing here, but I did look into it after seeing your link.

But yes, that's my guess, more compression, more cam, more valve spring.

It's apparently a knock off of the Honda XR200 motor. A viable option other than the manual clutch.

 

[ezcome-ezgo]

The axle may have two sprockets, brake rotor, alt pulley...???

If it has 2 engines, it HAS to have 2 sprockets on the axle, unless you use JACKSHAFTS!!!

 

[bob58o]

I plan on keeping the 60T #41 that is on there and adding another.
Lets just hope I don't go all Bob on these engines. It was expensive enough to learn the basics with one!

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I did think about connecting the two cranks via a common jackshaft. Synced exactly 180 degrees out of phase.

 

[bob58o]

Ok The engine I'm working on will go on a minibike with TC!

6000 RPM
5.4:1 (TC overdrive gives 4.86 : 1)
16" Tires
58 MPH MAX

Dual Engine Kart
5400 RPM
6:1 (TC Overdrive gives 5.4 : 1)
18.5" Tires
55 MPH MAX

Fair Race or No?
With Mods, and Money... Eventually the kart will win that race!

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With my knowledge, skills, and limited, specific experience....
Combined with a desire for two awesome vehicles...
AND wanting to make use out of what I already have....

This seems to make the most sense to me.

I just wish I didn't order the pulley for the axle to run the alternator. Now I'd rather used a jackshaft with the two TC driven pulleys and the alternator pulley.

And then with the battery and changing system... We can work on crazy ideas to get that HP back...
Air Conditioned Intake?
NOS solenoid?
Electric Supercharger? lol
Smog Pump Draw Though Supercharging?
Methanol Inection?

lol

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I should work on the brakes sometime soon?

 

[bob58o]

For the kart :
Two Predator 212cc engines = $220 after tax with sale coupon

2 x $73.50/each (free shipping) 30 Series TCc =
$147
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GO-KART-TOR...d=100338&rk=1&rkt=22&mehot=pp&sd=121445486599


$17 10' #41 roller chain w/ 2 master links (good for mini bike too) Ebay

$17 (w/shp) 1 Air Filter Adapter (already got one) Ebay


2 Exhaust Pipes
2 Air Filters
2 6* Timing Keys
1 5" x 12" Motor Mount
1 1.25" Hub / 60T #41 Sprocket
BMI Pricing
$140 with shipping included

~$550
$150 left get a battery, belt, and steel for mounting engines, alt, and winch.


Setting a Total Budget of $700. That includes wiggle room for brake rebuild kits, if I need that!
Forgot about the battery. So Forget about the brakes. lol

Will come up with a budget for the minibike once I decide if I can build a frame that can do 60mph or if I should just buy a roller?

 

[Poboy kartman]

PFFFTT....Who needs brakes, seats, or a throttle?

 

[bob58o]

PFFFTT....Who needs brakes, seats, or a throttle?

I was going to link a seat to FR!

 

[bob58o]

Coupons.... Yes
$45 savings.

 

[FreeRunner15]

I was going to link a seat to FR!

PFFFTT....Who needs brakes, seats, or a throttle?

lol

unless its less than $25 total.

 

[bob58o]

Looking for a style of Mini Bike that can take a 16" Drive Wheel with band brake / 54t #41 sprocket assembly.

I guessing 10" is wide enough to fit the wheel assembly but not sure how to fit wheel with the engine / TC.
I think it will need a large off road mini bike frame but not really sure.

I'm looking for frames I know will work.

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This looks nice! Trail Sport ts-500
$450 complete with TC and brakes. Just need to put my Predator on there. Save's me in long run, I think because I only need to order 1 TC for the kart.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/mcy/5563713463.html

 

[ezcome-ezgo]

Great, GAB on a minibike. What's next?

 

[bob58o]

Going to look at it tomorrow...
How much should I offer.
He said make a reasonable offer. Not Half!

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This Mini Bike will house my Predator 212cc.
The buggy will get the the two new 212cc's.

I will be done for a while. I hope!

 

[bob58o]

Shopping List

$1250 to finish both. It's scary that I put this together and am buying a mini bike. Really shouldn't be buying anything right now.

Just the bike. I can ride it as is for a while, with MY engine on the buggy!

The other $850 will have to wait!