150cc oil cooler question

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Hello, I have a buggy looks like a Kandi Batman with a 1p57qmj motor. I see pictures with them having oil coolers on them. Mines was missing its when I bought it. Can some tell me where the lines run to or even better post a picture of it. First time messing with this type of engine and I’m in the dark on this one. Thanks.
 
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If it is set up to run an oil cooler ( even if it's missing ) there should be two obvious ports. The out going from the engine to the cooler, and the incoming from the cooler back into the engine. If it doesn't have those, then more than likely it never had a cooler.
 
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Did you ever figure it out? I have a batman cart without one on it as well. Did you install one or do we need one?
 
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If it didn’t come with an oil cooler I wouldn’t worry about it…

An oil cooler is a good idea if you ride in Death Valley arguably the hottest place on earth otherwise I am content with the normal operating temps of our air cooled motors. Oil quality and viscosity is a concern. Good/fresh oil cools better than dirty sludgy oil so I would keep up with your OCI (oil change interval) and also not run a thin 20 weight base oil or anything like it (“racing“ oils, etc), keep it a thirty something or whatever the manufacturer recommends. If it was 10W-30 I might go up to 10W-40.

1P57QMJ seems to be just a fancy abbreviation for a GY6 engine. There are water cooled variants available which is an option.

On the other hand, if I could add an oil cooler without much hassle and expense, I would do it just because.
Just do it.
 
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Hellion said:
If it didn’t come with an oil cooler I wouldn’t worry about it…

An oil cooler is a good idea if you ride in Death Valley arguably the hottest place on earth otherwise I am content with the normal operating temps of our air cooled motors. Oil quality and viscosity is a concern. Good/fresh oil cools better than dirty sludgy oil so I would keep up with your OCI (oil change interval) and also not run a thin 20 weight base oil or anything like it (“racing“ oils, etc), keep it a thirty something or whatever the manufacturer recommends. If it was 10W-30 I might go up to 10W-40.

1P57QMJ seems to be just a fancy abbreviation for a GY6 engine. There are water cooled variants available which is an option.

On the other hand, if I could add an oil cooler without much hassle and expense, I would do it just because.
Just do it.
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Yeah i dont see the point in one cause its up so high above the motor, I think it would make more sense being closer down towards it. Im getting a lot of white smoke, I think they let it sit so long the pistons are stuck
 
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Not sure if this will help you or not but if you decide on one this image shows a GY6 with an oil filter system. Taken from the GY6/150cc engine shop manual.
 

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To run a oil cooler of any kind, wouldn't it be necessary for there to be a pump? Otherwise it would just sit there and not circulate. Just thinking out loud.
 
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Turbowings said:
Did you ever figure it out? I have a batman cart without one on it as well. Did you install one or do we need one?
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I haven’t at the moment. Spoke to rolling wrench, they deal with scooters mostly but are very knowledgeable. He told me I would only need to run one when I started upgrading the motor. Like big bore kit and stuff like that.
 
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Hellion said:
If it didn’t come with an oil cooler I wouldn’t worry about it…

An oil cooler is a good idea if you ride in Death Valley arguably the hottest place on earth otherwise I am content with the normal operating temps of our air cooled motors. Oil quality and viscosity is a concern. Good/fresh oil cools better than dirty sludgy oil so I would keep up with your OCI (oil change interval) and also not run a thin 20 weight base oil or anything like it (“racing“ oils, etc), keep it a thirty something or whatever the manufacturer recommends. If it was 10W-30 I might go up to 10W-40.

1P57QMJ seems to be just a fancy abbreviation for a GY6 engine. There are water cooled variants available which is an option.

On the other hand, if I could add an oil cooler without much hassle and expense, I would do it just because.
Just do it.
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1P57QMJ is a GY6. You need to know your block number cause there are a few different versions of them and not all parts are interchangeable.
 
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Turbowings said:
Yeah i dont see the point in one cause it’s up so high above the motor, I think it would make more sense being closer down towards it. Im getting a lot of white smoke, I think they let it sit so long the pistons are stuck
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Might have oil in the exhaust, mines did that for a bit till it all burned off
 
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Karttekk said:
Not sure if this will help you or not but if you decide on one this image shows a GY6 with an oil filter system. Taken from the GY6/150cc engine shop manual.
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Appreciate you, that is for a Hammerhead. It would be tough to make it work for the Batman kart. The oil feed and return is on the engine block
 
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Turbowings said:
Yeah i dont see the point in one cause its up so high above the motor, I think it would make more sense being closer down towards it. Im getting a lot of white smoke, I think they let it sit so long the pistons are stuck
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Check the block to see what version engine you have. It will be on the drivers side of the block, front lower side. I bought a replacement head and piston kit off amazon for 30 bucks. Been running great. Also make sure to check you valve lash.
 
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Like Pancho says in post #3, are there indeed ports in the GY6 engines that allow the addition of an oil cooler, some sort of fitting in the block that is capped off when not in use, or do only select engines have that feature?

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The GY6 has an internal oil pump.
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Does the GY6 have a spin on oil filter or maybe a centrifugal oil filter? Just curious. I’d look myself but searching the web got suddenly less efficient and effective in the last several years. :worried2:
 
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Hellion said:
Like Pancho says in post #3, are there indeed ports in the GY6 engines that allow the addition of an oil cooler, some sort of fitting in the block that is capped off when not in use, or do only select engines have that feature?



Does the GY6 have a spin on oil filter or maybe a centrifugal oil filter? Just curious. I’d look myself but searching the web got suddenly less efficient and effective in the last several years. :worried2:
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For the Hammerhead GTS 150 it does. For other ones no. You have to buy a kit, it will come with an adapter that goes in where the oil drain plug is with the little screen filter. And the hoses run off of there up to the oil cooler
 
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