150cc Carbide Reverse ---- Electric Issue? Wires not connected? No Spark..

[DTap15]

I have a 150cc Carbide reverse that is not starting.

I have checked for spark by pulling the plug and grounding it. No spark.

Brand new battery - no luck

New ignition coil / spark plug - no luck

Put in new CDI - it literally melted - old one is back in

New carb - (air fuel and idol set are not set correctly for sure, they are bottomed out and turned back 2 full turns, figure I cant do anything until I can start it)

Looking at the CDI and comparing it to the diagram found buggydepot.com I do not have a Kill Switch wire going into the #5 pin of the CDI. I am also completely missing the #4 ground wire that is suppose to be there.

-I read somewhere about jumping the killswitch to rule out while diagnosing the spark issue and it specifically mentions the above wires(it doesnt say to totally remove them so I have NO idea what is going on)

-I was starting to troubleshoot the stator and it asked me to disconnect the Black/Red and yellow/blue wires coming from the stator to the main harness but noticed only the yellow/blue wire is connected to the harness and the black/red is just one have of the bullet type connector with no mate to plug into. Its like the male connector with no female connector.......(pictured)

At this point I figured it best to seek some professional help because I am now lost completely...........

 

[AltuveRules]

Looks like you're missing a wire. The black/red should run to pin 6 on the cdi. Trace the wire from pin 6 and see if you find anything. If not, hook it up somehow. The ground should be coming out of the same conduit stuff as the other cdi wires (From what I remember . If it's not there, just hop pin 4to bare metal to try to get a spark and figure it out later. I'd just hop it to the negative battery terminal to make sure you have a good connection.

 

[DTap15]

I can not find any other wire that the red/black would go to. So just hook the black red into the CDI at #6 and ground it to the battery?

 

[DTap15]

So i am out here working on this thing now and think there is an issue with either what you were saying or this POS. You were sayin the black red goes to the CDI at pin 6 but if you look at the pics I posted originally there is a black wire already installed at pin 6 and pin 5 is empty. That still leaves the red and black just dangling around. Put it in pin 5??

 

[Joe-405]

So I'm assuming you've cut wires and reattached different ones ?

Your probably stuck buying a new harness. Or you've connected the wrong ones together or you bought the wrong cdi. There are multiple things wrong just by looking at your pics. You should take it somewhere local so somebody can see it in person. At this point your frustrated and it's only gonna get worse or you will fry something else.

Not alot of us know this style of ignition in here either. I have had a few scooters so I know a little but without it in front of me I can't assist any further either. Good luck and I hope you find somebody that can help.

 

[DTap15]

Thanks for the reply. The original CDI is back in, I've done no hacking of wires to this point and can definitely knock this thing out with a push in the right direction. I just got to know what someone needs to get me pointed that way.....Thanks

 

[AltuveRules]

Sorry been busy... Trace the black pin 6 wire and see if it dead ends. If so, hook it up to the black/red wire. Check for spark. If no spark, your ground wire is in pin 3 not 4. Maybe your cdi is different, so just try it in 3 first. If you still don't get a spark see if the ground is loose and you can put it back in pin 4. Or you could just hop the negative battery terminal to pin 4 if it won't come loose.

 

[DTap15]

Thanks

No worries man. Thanks for getting back to me.

From what I recall the black wire runs into the main harness which runs up front. Any suggestions on how to attach the wires mentioned to the CDI?

Again, thanks man

 

[AltuveRules]

You know what, maybe you have a dc cdi. Check and see if you can hook it up as shown in this pic.

 

[DTap15]

Ok

Sorry for the delay. Just getting back to the kart. Will update soon